Talk:Severn Estuary

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Brown mud[edit]

I just visited England last week and took a side trip to Wales. When we crossed the Severn Bridge the water was completely brown! It was the strangest thing we had ever seen...and when we came back 5 hours later, it was still brown and muddy. We wanted to know what causes that? Janet Maffucci Jaymaffucci (talk) 13:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

We Brits think that the muddy brownness would be caused by brown mud in the water. But seriously, it is a feature of the Severn and arises essentially from the high tidal range, the funnel shape of the estuary, and the resulting turbidity of the water. It's worth a mention in the article, so I'll find a suitable reference and add it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Definition[edit]

What is the source for the assertion that "in navigational and cartographic terms" the Severn above the SSC is not part of the Severn Estuary? It's not just the Severn Estuary Partnership that regards the estuary as extending further. See for example the VisitEngland website. Even the image illustrating the article shows Beachley as on the estuary. Mhockey (talk) 22:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I may have written those words some time ago when I was less concerned than I should have been about recording my references! I believe it is broadly true, although there will always be different views. I'll see if I can find suitable references, but if you wish to modify the text I wouldn't object. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I have amended the text - including moving the bit about the Severn bore, which only occurs on the estuary in its widest definition. (I have not as yet changed the text in the River Severn article.)Mhockey (talk) 16:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

There is a very small uncited article about the Severn Escarpment which I feel properly forms part of the geography of the Severn Estuary, therefore I am proposing to merge that article into this one.— Rod talk 21:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the content would fit very naturally into the article on the Severn Estuary (or the River Severn). The escarpment is after all some miles from the estuary. If the expression Severn Escarpment has some defined meaning (although it's not an expression I've heard outside of WP, and a couple of websites which probably derive from WP), let's have some sources and expand the article. If not, I would suggest deleting it. Mhockey (talk) 08:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
OK any contributions to expansion or citation would be great. The reason I proposed it is that I'm working my way through Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset/Cleanup listing & and trying to sort the problems but User:Erik9bot has identified Severn Escarpment as unreferenced and I can't find any sources to use to reference the information or expand it. If no one else can find anything then I suppose AfD is the way to go.— Rod talk 09:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
OK I've removed the merge banner but Severn Escarpment still needs expansion & referencing if anyone can help.— Rod talk 12:58, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Mouth of the Severn[edit]

The Ordnance Survey use this name for that section of water between what they label as the River Severn (around and above the 2 crossings) and the Bristol Channel to its west. It also appears (perhaps as a derivative of its OS appearance) in the map currently illustrating this article. Does anyone know about the pedigree of this name? Does it refer perhaps to the section downstream of English Stones (now the site of the 2nd Severn crossing) so far as the Lavernock/Sand Point line? I feel it ought to be mentioned and perhaps expanded upon in either/both the Bristol Channel and Severn Estuary articles. cheers Geopersona (talk) 06:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know why OS use that term in preference to the more common term "Severn Estuary" - but I agree that a reference to its use by OS should be added in this article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I have definitely heard before reference to the Second Severn Crossing (probably more sepcifically English Stones) being the start of the Estuary. --Simple Bob (talk) 18:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)