Talk:Shame (2011 film)

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Critical reception[edit]

Hi, I'm somewhat new to wikipedia so I don't think I'm the appropriate person to change things but I have a suggestion regarding the critical reception. In the February edition of Sight & Sound magazine there's an interview with McQueen in which the critic Jonathon Rosenbaum's assessment of the "sexist complacencies and brutalities" contained within Shame crop up. McQueen's defense and reaction to the comments is particularly virulent and it's clear that he was rather offended - to the point where the it might merit inclusion to the article.

2.24.159.120 (talk) 15:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

under plot. michael's character , brandon, had sex with two women and one of them turns out to be the girl from the train station. as if they had met before for several times but they keep running into each other, at the end he sees her wedding ring and it makes you think about the comments that he said to her sister when she was sleeping with his boss. although, you never know if he gets recover.open ending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.93.165 (talk) 07:29, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Gross statistics and NC-17[edit]

Further to all this, there's actually a more fundamental problem here. I reverted because, as noted, the original source did not use the £37m figure for Showgirls. Looking at the new imdb source, the discrepancy is explained - the £37m is the worldwide gross whereas the £20m only reflects US figures. The £17m for Shame itself is also a worldwide total, hence the £37m is the better comparison. But the claim about Shame being second highest-grossing NC-17 then fails, because it was based on comparing the worldwide gross for Shame with the US-only figures for Showgirls and every other film in the running, which is what the list in the original source is using. We don't know where it would stand if all those films added in their worldwide earnings, as we are now doing for both Shame and Showgirls. Equally, what is the point of using worldwide figures on gross to (try to) make the point anyway about the impact of an NC-17 certificate, which is solely of course a US issue? According to the list we have, if we were to look at US figures only, Shame would be seventh behind Showgirls, a fact of little interest, especially for the lead. Anyway, the upshot of all that is that I'm simply going to take out the comparison with Showgirls and just note the (global) figures we have for Shame itself. N-HH talk/edits 11:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)