Talk:Shanghai

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Which Demonym Is More Appropriate for Describing People of Shanghai[edit]

Just try to raise awareness of the correct form of the demonym. I doubt the word "Shanghainese" is acceptable to most Shanghai people. Various reasons as we may know. Also, using the word "Shanghaier" (kidnapper) in the wiki page of Shanghainese_people to describe Shanghai people nowadays is even more ridiculous. I suggest using "Shanghaian" which is not only grammatically correct, but also acceptable to the locals and more understandable to the foreigners. Also, there has been some talk about the name of the Shanghai language in the past years (see my recent comment in that talk section too). I think the demonym for Shanghai people deserves a good discussion here as well. --MakeItFair Hopefully (talk) 18:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. Wikipedia's policy is to use the most common terms of the English language, not to promote terms that are deemed more "correct". See WP:COMMONNAME. Whether we like it or not, Shanghainese is by far the most common demonym for Shanghai, and I've never seen any respectable media use the term "Shanghaian". -Zanhe (talk) 22:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Aside from @Zanhe:'s correct observation that Wikipedia follows WP:COMMONNAME, "Shanghaian" with its three consecutive vowels does not scan well for the average English reader. The convention of using the "-ese" suffix in Chinese demonyms is also well-established : Taiwanese, Hainanese and Fujianese to name but three. ► Philg88 ◄ Star.pngtalk 04:08, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey guys, thanks for the pointers. As all these recent demonyms for Shanghai people are arbitrarily "created" based on different understanding, it seems that only time will tell which one should prevail and become established. As mentioned in the wiki commonname policy, since there is no single obvious term based on which the editors can reach a consensus, we've got to live with a mixed use of all these, I'm afraid. However, I doubt that the evidence above can actually hold. For example, "Ghanaian" is a word with three consecutive vowels, let alone the well established "Hawaiian" with four vowels. Furthermore, as Taiwan, Hainan, Fujian are words ended with letter "n", it actually makes sense to append -ese to them, while it's not easy to justify this letter "n" showing up in "Shanghainese". So hopefully our discussion could raise awareness among concerned users. I will try to edit pages with more obvious errors like "Shanghaiers" in Shanghainese_people and Shanghainese_dialect when I have a chance. --MakeItFair Hopefully (talk) 19:23, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Shanghai buildings[edit]

There reads: Since 2008, Shanghai has boasted more free-standing buildings above 400m (3) than any other city.
However, List of cities with most skyscrapers#Cities with at least 1 skyscraper above 300m (i.e. about 75–80 floors) (under construction & construction paused inclusive) has 4 cities with 4 buildings over 400m: Doha, Dubai, Kuala Lumpur and Shanghai. Strangely, the previous section has New York, Shanghai and Shenzhen. It seems that Shanghai does not have these "more than any other city", but it is unclear which cities tie with Shanghai. 82.141.94.24 (talk) 18:08, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the outdated claim. Many super-tall skyscrapers have been built in the Middle East in recent years. -Zanhe (talk) 22:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

China (Shanghai) Free Trade Zone[edit]

This page does not contain any information on the China (Shanghai) Free Trade Zone, a very important feature of Shanghai's history of economic development and current economy. This should be amended immediately, seeing as the FTZ has its own page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_(Shanghai)_Pilot_Free-Trade_Zone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by China Briefing (talkcontribs) 10:03, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2014[edit]

There are two errors in the second paragraph of the Culture section.

In the latest (past) 5 years Shanghai has been widely recognized as a new influence and inspiration for cyberpunk culture.[100] Futuristic buildings such as the Oriental Pearl Tower and the neon-illuminated Yan'an Elevated Road are a few examples that have helped to boast (boost) Shanghai's cyberpunk image.

Please change

In the latest 5 years Shanghai has been widely recognized as a new influence and inspiration for cyberpunk culture.[100] Futuristic buildings such as the Oriental Pearl Tower and the neon-illuminated Yan'an Elevated Road are a few examples that have helped to boast Shanghai's cyberpunk image.

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In the past 5 years Shanghai has been widely recognized as a new influence and inspiration for cyberpunk culture.[100] Futuristic buildings such as the Oriental Pearl Tower and the neon-illuminated Yan'an Elevated Road are a few examples that have helped to boost Shanghai's cyberpunk image.

Thanks! Anarchistamy (talk) 21:03, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks for pointing this out. --NeilN talk to me 21:22, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Shanghai is the World's largest city proper[edit]

describing Shanghai as China's largest city doesn't properly describe Shanghai as a dominant World city. Moreover as China becomes the most powerful country economically in the world, Shanghai will be the most powerful city in the world economically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.111.88.66 (talk) 03:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

The term city proper is rather complicated when it comes to Chinese cities. The article on the subject has a section titled, 'Controversy' which deals largely with Chinese cities. Shanghai is not the worlds largest city by most metrics and not even the largest by city proper according to [[1]] on Wikipedia. If you have better sources, do update those lists. Rincewind42 (talk) 15:20, 18 June 2014 (UTC)