Talk:Sharp Zaurus

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The first model Zaurus (PI-3000) did NOT run the Newton software. It ran Sharp's own OS, which was not at all like Newston. The development tools for it were completely different than the Newton. Both Newton and Zaurus had a common, albeit distant, ancestor in Sharp's earlier Wizard series. In fact, the first Zaurus series (PI-3000, PI-4000, PI-5000, PI-6000, PI-7000) accepted Wizard software cards. What may confuse people is that a similar PC communication protocol was used by Wizard, Zaurus, and Newton; originally they were intended to interoperate (e.g., so you could beam between a Zaurus and a Newton) but Apple made enough incompatible changes that this never worked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.124.149.116 (talk) 05:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

There is a couple of problems with this article. The claim that all Zaurus models run Linux is bogus. Sharp was selling the Zaurus in Japan with their own proprietary OS before switching to the Linux kernel. As a result the list of Zaurus models is incomplete. I see if I can dig up a more complete list and history of the Zaurus...... cheers --synthetik 22:05 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Ah, I was not aware of that... all the ones currently listed in the article run Linux, though (I got all of them from the LinuxDevices site). Feel free to correct it :-) -- Wapcaplet 23:20 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Found a site which talks about older Zaurus models. -- Wapcaplet 23:22 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Nevermind, it didn't say much about them and it looks like you've already found some info on them. -- Wapcaplet 23:25 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I added some of the Japanese models I found on the Japanese Sharp support site. Still they're missing a description. The site you pointed out should help quite a bit to fix that :) -- cheers, --synthetik 23:29 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I am scouring the web to find other historical information on the Zaurus. There's a brief and incomplete history of the Zaurus which has a couple useful tidbits. Found the specs of the M1-E1 on an Amiga site (they seem to be popular with Amiga afficiandos, so there may be specs on other models around too). And here's a good historical summary of the Zaurus. This article could get lengthy! -- Wapcaplet 23:35 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I found a (hopefully) rather complete list with all the Zaurus models in Japanese and some of the release dates for some models also in Japanese. -- cheers --synthetik 00:23 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Cool! Unfortunately, I remember practically nothing of my two years of Japanese language courses :-) I've written a rough overview of the history of Zaurus, based mostly on the Sharp History from their website, and the evolution chart from the Pen Computing site. There are probably inaccuracies; it's sort of hard to tell which models introduced which capabilities, so there is some guesswork. Also, neither of these sources has much information on the MI series, which is obviously important since there were so many of them. -- Wapcaplet 01:19 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I found most of the press releases for the Zaurii going back as far as 1995 and spent quite some time sifting through them extracting the data I think was intresting. There is still a lot of work to do but I saved the result temporarly in my Zaurus matrix scratch page. -- cheers, --synthetik 15:15 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Starting with SL5600, the 206MHz StrongArm-1100 was replaced with a 400MHz Intel XScale. I'm not sure, but I think all later versions use this CPU.

Why were my edits reverted? The old versions contain some awkward English and I believe people want to know about the options available to Zaurus owners. Jogloran 02:30, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

  • Looks like most of your edits were fine, but you accidentally deleted a bunch of stuff with your last edit. [1] I'm not sure why User:Edward reverted all of them, though. I've restored all the things you added. -- Wapcaplet 03:18, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • Whoops, I just meant to revert the final edit with the deletion. Sorry. Edward 13:13, 2005 Jan 16 (UTC)
Thanks, and no problem. I'll be more careful. Jogloran 10:36, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, my edit to include figlabs.com was reverted (the comment says 'wikipedia does not allow a link to a retailer of a single product'). I don't really understand the explanation - Trisoft are linked and they sell pretty much the same things as Figlabs. We sell devices, accessories, software, services. Is there some minimum number of products you have to retail before you can be linked to be Wikipedia? Sounds unlikely, but if that was the case doesn't that discriminate against the small guy? Also there's useful stuff on our site besides the shop. For instance there is free access to a full english zaurus user guide for novice users - something not available anywhere else. Figlabs are also the only retailer of the Zaurus in the UK that is fully compliant with European regulations - we CE test the devices ourselves - so if you want to buy it legally from someone based in the UK, we're currently the only place. Thanks. --Rob figlabs 14:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I read through the policy section and can't see anything about this. Rob figlabs 08:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

The page reads like SL-5500 (Collie) wasn't sold outside Japan either. This is afaik not true, there is a quite widely sold German version (SL-5500g), and I've got german manuals with mine.

Models named after dog breeds[edit]

I'm probably being too much of a fanboy in wanting to put this in the article, so I'm posting it here and someone with their passion for Zauruses well in check can decide what to do with it.

I find the Zaurus model naming convention, and particularly the names chosen, incredibly amusing.

The ones which amuse me most are:

Model Name Zaurus Breed traits Dog Breed traits
5000D / SL-5500 Collie Popular, well-known, affordable, consumer-level, first Linux PDA sold outside Japan Popular, well-known "family dog", "an intelligent dog who loves to work"
SL-5600 / B500 Poodle Fancy-pants, souped-up Collie. Has a fixable bug in its hardware. Fancy-pants dog. Intelligent enough to get bored and troublesome.
SL-C700 Corgi Compact even for a Zaurus: it is in clamshell format. Only sold in Japan. "Cor Gi" is Welsh for "Dwarf Dog" (according to Pembroke Welsh Corgi)
SL-C750 Shepherd Upgraded Corgis The German Shepherd and Husky look (to me) like upgaded Corgis :)
SL-C760 Husky
C860 Boxer
SL-6000 Tosa (This is the model I have, hence my bias and fanboy-ism.) Upgraded Collie, sales in the US limited to corporations, then ceased. Sharp things these are too powerful for "regular users". Much more expensive and difficult to get support for. Sharp's website is decidedly unhelpful to individuals looking for help for a 6000. The Japenese Tosa Inu was specially bread for fighting, is a national treasure and is impossible for "normal people" to obtain. See http://www.shaku1.com/tosa2.htm.
C1000 Akita
C3000 Spitz
C3100 Borzoi
C3200 Terrier

I don't know of any way to work this into the article and maintain the Encyclopedic style so valued in a good WP article, so I'm throwing it out there for the community to mull over. --Crag 18:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the table is cromulent, so I updated it. The dog descriptions are purely opinion though. For example, a proper poodle is larger than the inbred and yappy little toy poodles and is very protective. -- Sy / (talk) 13:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Available?[edit]

Hey fellas! Is the Sharp Zaurus SL-6000 still available in the market? Thanks! ReluctantPhilosopher (talk) 07:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Portable Penguin Link Removal[edit]

Hi

I am the blogger who has twice now placed a link to my blog on this page, only to see it removed. My blog is a software resource for Sharp Zaurus machines. It consists of a collection of ipk files, which are Zaurus ports of popular open-source software, some of which have been compiled by me. Many of these ports take weeks (and in one famous case for me, several months to compile, test and package up - few people have the skills and diligence to do this work). I have a further 14 or so applications that will either be ported by me or have been ported by someone else, and will be made available via my blog. These applications will then constitute a complete useful, scientific and mathematic software resource for the Zaurus. All of these ports will then be maintained by myself on an ongoing basis, for as long as possible. My blog will then be the only complete source for up-to-date versions of these applications for the Zaurus on the Internet.

I am not a commercial organization; I compile this software and make it available for free, for the good of the Zaurus community in my spare time - much like the editors of this esteemed publication. I make no money from these activities, and my blog contains no advertising. As such, this is a valid free resource (in precisely the same way the links to pdaXrom, Cacko and Angstrom are).

I do not understand why these links have been removed - twice. In light of some of the links still in place, can somebody please explain to me exactly what policy has been contravened by my placing these links on this page and which is not contravened by the links already in place and previously mentioned?


Signed


A very frustrated Zaurus enthusiast and developer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Portablepenguin (talkcontribs) 21:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)