Talk:Shell keep

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Military history: Fortifications / Medieval Start‑class

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Excised from the article[edit]

I am moving this here for several reasons:

It's badly written, with egregious spelling and formatting errors.
It was added in the wrong place, after the External references.
It's not clear that this adds anything to the article itself.
The submitter apparently lost interest before completing (or starting) his last improperly bulleted bullet point. In other words, it's a sandbox experiment performed within a live article.

If someone disagrees and wants to perform extensive cleanup and re-add it, be my guest. 71.200.140.35 (talk) 02:36, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The strenghts of a stone keep are:

-They could not burn down

-The curtin wall (The wall that went aroud the motte)protecte what ever was in side

-It could protect the people in side and it would be a place to flee in times of attack

The weaknesses of a stone keep are:

-The wall of the shell keep could be weakened during attack and if it is broken, attackers could get into the shell

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Meaning of the word Shell[edit]

The article gives a link to describe a keep, but lacks a meaning (or etymology) of the word shell.

Are there budding volunteer(s) to fill in the gap yet, out there? Trafford09 (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it because the outer wall forms a shell against which the interior structures (hall, chapel, kitchen etc) are built? The trouble is I don't remember seeing it explained anywhere, it's just taken for granted in castle studies. Richard Nevell (talk) 21:12, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Richard. I guess you're right. Maybe somebody will spot a source! Trafford09 (talk) 10:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]