Talk:Shepseskare

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There's too much "Verner says..." in the current article. Need to have a hard look at other sources and include those other viewpoints as well to make this a more balanced article.

I also doubt that a pharaoh with a reign in the span of a few months would have been able to have had constructed the full base/foundation of a pyramid in that time. Needs to be checked.

Existing references also need fixing.

Succession/predecessor issue needs more content.

Add pharaoh infobox.

Captmondo 17:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree about the heavy reliance on Verner. It's almost as if this article was written to justify Verner's point of view and discredit those who happen to disagree. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 01:53, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Piledhigheranddeeper you are responding to a message dating to 10 years ago, that is 9 years before the article was fundamentally changed and expanded to its current FA status. Click here to see what the article looked like when this comment was written. At the time, Verner was the only reference! The article as it is now relies on Verner in so far as he is the only Egyptologist who recently published works on this pharaohs (all other barely mention Shespseskare). Note, the points of views of other Egyptologists are as detailed in the article as they made them in their publication (as I am sure you can see, by checking the references), Shespseskare being an obscur king most often mentioned only in passing. Verner is different because he is the only one to have excavated extensively in the zone where Shepseskare might have started his pyramid. He is furthermore the foremost living expert on the 5th Dynasty. I can personally assure you that the article present virtually everything that is known about Shespseskare. Iry-Hor (talk) 08:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I knew the comment was an old one, but I still had my concerns about over-reliance. Thank you, though, for noting that Verner seems to be the only recent Egyptologist who mentions Shepseskare other than in passing (but maybe mention the "old guys"?). That certainly wasn't clear. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Piledhigheranddeeper So I have just found a book by Silke Roth, where he conjectures that Shepseskare was a brother of Neferefre, I have added this to the article. I must say though that it is pretty rare to find a non-Verner source devoting any more than a passing mention to Shepseskare. Iry-Hor (talk) 07:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Shepseskare Isi

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Shepseskare Isi's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "rice":

• From Wahkare Khety I: Michael Rice, Who is who in Ancient Egypt, 1999 (2004), Routledge, London, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, p. 7.
• From Netjerkare Siptah: Michael Rice: Who is who in Ancient Egypt, Routledge London & New York 1999, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, see "Nitiqret" p. 140
• From Nebkaure Khety: Michael Rice, Who is who in Ancient Egypt, 1999 (2004), Routledge, London, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, pp. 5-6.
• From Neferhotep I: Michael Rice: Who is who in Ancient Egypt, Routledge London & New York 1999, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, see p. 131
• From Sahure: Michael Rice (1999): Who is who in Ancient Egypt, Routledge London & New York, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, see p. 173
• From Intef III: Michael Rice: Who's Who in Ancient Egypt, Routledge 2001, p. 80, ISBN 978-0415154499
• From Menkauhor Kaiu: Michael Rice: Who is who in Ancient Egypt, Routledge London & New York 1999, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, see p. 107–108
• From Merenre Nemtyemsaf II: Michael Rice: Who is who in Ancient Egypt, Routledge London & New York 1999, ISBN 0-203-44328-4, see p. 111

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:11, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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