Talk:Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4/GA3

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GA Reassessment[edit]

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I think this article shouldn't qualify as good article criteria and would like someone who is not regularly associated with this article to access it. It's the receptive section concerning kanjis sexuality. Altus has stated it's up to the player to decide, but the receptive section seems to lean more that he is gay, and this undermines wikipedia good article criteria by failing to state a neutral undertone, which in this case seems its favoring he is gay when in fact it's ambigious. Thoughts?

You should have discussed this at the talk page. I have looked over the reception and it is fine. The reviewers have stated their opinions that the character is gay; That information is presented neutrally and I do not need to further my argument. If it were me, I'd just shift the information onto the character instead. Because you have inadequately assessed this article for GAR, I'll do it instead. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 07:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Issues must be addressed to maintain GA standards. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 07:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Issues[edit]

  • Recheck most ref formats. They are missing information or their date format is not consistent.
    Took care of date formatting. --Izno (talk) 00:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Ref 1 deadlink
  • Ref 2 deadlink
  • Ref 3 deadlink
  • Ref 4 soon to be deadlink because 1up will shut down at some point.
  • Ref 6 What am I looking at?
  • Ref 29?
  • "The development team consisted of the team from Persona 3, all of whom retained their roles from the previous game, as well as new hires who were "fans of Persona 3"" Ref 34 did not seem to back up these fact the development team from Persona 3 retained their roles in Persona 4
  • "Atlus intended to improve both the gameplay and story elements of Persona 3 for the new game, to ensure it was not seen as a "retread" of its predecessor. Hashino said that "to accomplish that, we tried to give the players of Persona 4 a definite goal and a sense of purpose that would keep motivating them as they played through the game. The murder mystery plot was our way of doing that." Feedback from players on Persona 3 and Persona 3: FES was considered a "great help", as well as over 2,000 comments generated by Atlus staff on the company's internal website." This whole paragraph does not seem to be backed up by the right source.
  • "The plot of Persona 4 was "greatly inspired", according to Hashino, by mystery novelists such as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Agatha Christie, and Seishi Yokomizo. "The discovery of a bizarre corpse in the countryside, and...a story that reflects Japanese mythology" are common elements of Japanese mystery novels reflected in the game." Properly introduce this quote.
  • "Atlus has stated that there would be no "Persona 4 FES"." I had no clue what this was until I read the reference. Expand for general reader
  • "Unlike other role-playing games, which may have large worlds for the player to explore, Persona 4 mostly takes place in Inaba. This reduced development costs, and enabled Atlus "to expand other portions of the game" in return. A central setting also allows players to "sympathize with the daily life that passes in the game." To prevent the setting from becoming stale, the development team established a set number of in-game events to be created to "keep the game exciting."" Awaiing Ref 3 for confirmation
  • Last paragraph in Development, right above music. Is that all referenced by 38? Encase the first sentence and the last sentence then.
  • The Go Home Nihongo is unnecessary, it was for the Japanese readers to understand.
  • "He also remarked on how popular the interpretations of Kanji's Shadow were in the west, and how it did not change how the character was seen by the other audience." Unnecessary sentence for development
  • "The soundtrack was mainly composed by Shōji Meguro with 4 tracks composed by Atsushi Kitajoh (known for his soundtrack for Trauma Center: New Blood and Trauma Team) and 3 tracks by Ryota Kozuka (1 composition and 2 arrangements). All the vocals were done by Shihoko Hirata, whom Meguro felt was able to meet the range of emotion needed for the soundtrack, while the lyrics were written by Reiko Tanaka, whom Meguro believes "writes excellent English-language lyrics." Asides from Shoji, the other composers were not covered in Ref 39.
  • "While Persona 3 had a more modern style and design, Persona 4 features a more retro one." Whose analysis is this?
  • Ref 42 needs proper template
  • Ref 45, same thing
  • MOS:Caps in music names
  • Ref 51. Add author names, Andriasang is also prone to server crashes so use an archive
  • Ref 55 is youtube.
  • "It was released November 20, 2012." Source
  • "The English version was also released in the "Solid Gold Premium Edition" in fall 2012." Outdated. Replace with actual date.
  • Ref 62 format. At this point, I'm going to stop pointing out ref formats
  • Ref 63 and 64 are insufficient refs for all the merchandise mentioned before it.
  • "Most items were only released in Japan, while other Japanese third-party manufacturers also produced figurines and toys." Unrelated ideas?
  • "Dengeki Black Maoh magazine on September 19, 2008." Ref?
  • Ref 73, we have the first date. Where's the last date.
  • "An additional 26th episode, featuring the story's true ending, aired on August 22, 2013" Source
  • "The series features most of the returning cast from the video game, whilst voice recordings for Igor were taken from the game as his actor, Isamu Tanonaka, passed away in January 2010." Igor info not sourced
  • Ref 75 is the first volume, should be complimented with the last volume to back up that last release date
  • " Sentai Filmworks licensed the series in North America, simulcasting it on Anime Network as it aired and releasing the series on DVD and Blu-ray in two collective volumes on September 18, 2012 and Januray 15, 2013 respectively." The licensing and the September date has been sourced. How about the Anime Network and January date now.
  • Ref 80 has the third collection. First collection date needs a source.
  • "VISUALIVE" MOS caps
  • At this point, I'm just checking if the reception references are alive and are not confirming their accuracy.
  • Citation needed on Atlus' statement about Kanji's sexuality.

And finally, done. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 07:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I will have to fail this on September 3rd, which is a week from the date of my review. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:48, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Delisting. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:16, 5 September 2013 (UTC)