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Euphemisms[edit]

Article should include the above section. For example, among common American euphemisms for poo or popopopo and you got lol ftw!!!!!! "shit" are: poop, poo, poo-in some doggie wow!"

The phrase is 'take a dump' and why would a someone use the word shit as an exclamation then replace the noun? --Nialligimino

74.233.44.144 (talk) 16:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC)Wolf Lorber Bye XX

Edit request from 99.235.163.3, 5 July 2011[edit]

Please note that 'shithawk' is a slang name for a your mother sucks my mother fucking shit

99.235.163.3 (talk) 23:18, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from MisterTadakichi, 9 July 2011[edit]

Please add the hyperlink "http://shitbrix.com./newest/mindfuck" to the end of the first passage under "Surprise" in "Usage" on this page, as the website it links to provides an adequate citation to the preceding sentence.

MisterTadakichi (talk) 17:57, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done unreliable and dodgy source. Monkeymanman (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 December 2011[edit]

december 1 2011

84.75.153.35 (talk) 21:11, 1 December 2011 (UTC) june 25 2012

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Zidanie5 (talk) 00:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

The word is not the thing[edit]

The intro para talks about the word shit, first describing its social evaluation and then giving definitions. The point is not that shit itself is vulgar and profane -- it can in fact be valuable as fertilizer -- but that the word "shit" is. I have clarified that by changing the opening from

Shit is usually considered...

to

The word "shit" is usually considered...

--Thnidu (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Good idea! Anything that reduces ambiguity is good, in my opinion. — UncleBubba T @ C ) 18:38, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

"The Shit"[edit]

I would like to add reference to the slang usage of "the shit," as in "My new car is the shit," that is "good." I know this usage is common in the United States. I need to research it's use in this way in other parts of the Anglosphere. —JamesReyes (talk) 01:38, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

In common parlance in many countries where English is spoken, especially the United States of America, shit has taken on the meaning of many different things. For example drugs (as in "you wanna try some of this shit"), knowledge (as in "you really know your shit"), problems (as in "I don't care about your shit"). The common background seems to be things that are unpleasant to be mentioned, named or talked about. 77.167.212.162 23:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Bullshit[edit]

Someone can also be said to be 'chatting shit' or 'talking out of their arse' if they are indeed bullshitting or talking bollocks - in this sense the addressee is believed to be lying or 'making shit up'. The clean version of this would be 'chat egg', something else which is deemed quite smelly. 'I smell shit' or 'I smell bull' are phrases used to unveil a bullshitter, but can be commonly cleaned up to 'can you smell something?' or 'it's starting to smell a bit over here' as a joke between two people that are listening to someone talk out of their arse - usualy bigging themselves up to sound like 'the shit'. --Nialligimino

Shit a Brick[edit]

If someone is 'shitting bricks' then they can be scared or nervous or this is also used to mean constipated. Also, someone might say "fuck that shit" referring to something they are not going to do, because it is either a menial task, something they cannot be botehred to do or something they are scared of - Fuck that shit man I can't be bother to do that or fuck that shit - I don't wanna die! --Nialligimino

Why is this page here?[edit]

Because it's funny to define Shit? This is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. What here is worthy of being an encyclopedia entry? Definitions and etymology?

The first pillar of Wikipedia: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It incorporates elements of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers. Wikipedia is not a soapbox, an advertising platform, a vanity press, an experiment in anarchy or democracy, an indiscriminate collection of information, or a web directory. It is not a dictionary, a newspaper, or a collection of source documents; that kind of content should be contributed instead to the Wikimedia sister projects. 173.216.127.58 (talk) 03:10, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect, that is just a bunch of shit. You can't seriously cry over a page devoted to shit when pages such as Ass to mouth and Anilingus are flaunting pseudo-pornographic imagery.

Joke?[edit]

Was this page intentionfully made to look like a South Park episode?

I'm sorry, but no. Any resemblance this page has to South Park is entirely coincidental. Rotorcowboy talk
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18:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

French usage of "merde" as "good luck"[edit]

Under "break a leg," a common expression among artists for "good luck," one also finds the French word "merde." I can confidently state this is still in use in the Canadian provinces of New Brunswick and Quebec.

1. How to link "See also..." to this page? Only auto-approved users may edit.

2. How best to provide solid references for Wikipedia purposes? ZappoTheGentleman (talk) 14:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Shit or S.H.I.T.[edit]

As I understand it, the word SHIT was derived from the days of the old sailing vessels when manure was sent overseas to help with cultivating crops. Because of the combustible nature of the bagged product it was recommended it be stored on top of the other cargo, thus enabling it to be extinguished or thrown overboard should it catch fire. The bags were thus stamped S.H.I.T (Store High In Transit). I would welcome any comments supporting this or otherwise!!!

Thanks,

Mick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.176.98.196 (talkcontribs)

We've seen this before, and it sounds delightful. If you can find a reference for it in a reliable source it can be added to the article with pleasure. You can add it yourself if you have such a reference. I suspect it would need to be away from the main derivation/etymology, since it appears to be a folk take. DOn;t add it without such a source though. It was wise to place it here, on the talk page rather than in the article itself. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 12:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I doubt the word itself originated from it, though. Sounds like something for the "Backronym" section. 70.72.211.35 (talk) 20:35, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
In his book Port Out, Starboard Home and Other Language Myths (Penguin Books, 2005) Michael Quinion specifically deals with this theory of the origin of the word. He says it originates from a chain e-mail that did the rounds in 2003 and which was "another product of an inventive but twisted mind" before going on to point out that the word actually comes from the Old English word scitte to mean "diarrhoea". Or to put it another way, that rumour is a load of old store high in transit. Keresaspa (talk) 01:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

First use in mainstream film?[edit]

The TV usage section is interesting, but what was the first mainstream film to feature the word? The variant "Bullshit" is uttered in the 1968 release Bullitt but it must have been used prior to that. 70.72.211.35 (talk) 20:35, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Usage in songs[edit]

The song "Legs" by ZZ Top has a line which says "Shit, I gotta have her!" The song got played unedited on the radio since it came out in 1983 until recently. Some stations now play an edited version where the word is eliminated or replaced.

What made the word profane/vulgar?[edit]

This aspect seems to be missing from the article. Who or what originally decided this was a "bad" word? Stevie is the man! TalkWork 02:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Eric Partridge states that it was standard English until the 19th century when it became a vulgarism. I do recall reading somewhere (unfortunately I can't remember where exactly so this isn't reliable) that a bunch of these words became vulgar around the early 19th century when people's habits changed and the growth of private toilets and the like suddenly meant a lot of taboos grew up around both the acts of and the language of human waste production. Up to that point people had had to go in public a lot more often so there was little point in being sheepish or modest about it. But as I say I can't recall where I read that so don't quote me. Keresaspa (talk) 01:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I have shit on my head

Displeasure or Quality?[edit]

The section titled "Displeasure" should be retitled "Quality". This section really describes how the word shit is used in professional settings when discussing serious matters such as quality assurance.

Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2013[edit]

huzaifah machher Hmachher10 (talk) 17:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format.

Displeasure[edit]

Also under the section "Displeasure" (this concerning accuracy) - is the word "crap" a euphemism? I have seen people on (non-Wikipedia) websites asterisking the word "crap", though I know not why. (This on websites that do not automatically censor "crap", so that there was no reason to be getting around any filter.)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2014[edit]

There's this part I want to add on how the word was used so much back in the 1980's. 118.209.37.214 (talk) 09:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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In regards to the part the vague noun sections, I think a few more examples would help make clear the many ways can be used. "You left your shit in my car last night." - Used to replace a word similar to "thing" or "stuff", or used to implicitly refer to an illegal thing or drug. Another example:"This shit is awesome." or "This shit's so boring." - Used to show emphasis, can be used with both positive and negative connotations.