Talk:Shu'ubiyya

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Non-Persian SHU'UBY[edit]

Can you give an example of Non-Persian (Berber! Aramean!) Shu'uby.--Aziz1005 02:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Biased[edit]

This Article is biased towards Shu'ubiyya. --Maha Odeh 13:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

As it is used at least in Classical Arabic works of the period, شعوبية strictly means "anti-Arab" views. The article does not provide one source of the made-up definition of a reaction to the Arabs' privileged status. Yes, Persian revivalism sometimes took on Shu'ubi forms, but it didn't have to. These were separate phenomena. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.36.49.198 (talk) 08:13, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, the claim that Persians were persecuted by the Abbasid is ridiculous. In fact, there are those who see the advent of the Abbasid caliphate as the beginning of Persian influence. Of course, the Abbasid quashed attempts to revive ancient Iranian religions, but Persians, as a whole, were far from persecuted. Some of them had powerful positions in the Abbasid state.

Ba`th[edit]

Should point out that under modern Ba`thism, Shu`ubiyya means "treason to the cause of Arab qawmiyya nationalism". AnonMoos (talk) 20:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Why are these words a different color?[edit]

"nations (shū'ub) and tribes (qabā'il),"  ? --AW (talk) 00:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? --AW (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Neutrality disputed[edit]

The article makes some crucial claims but fails to cite reliable neutral sources. As such, it has been tagged for neutrality dispute. -AsceticRosé 05:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC)