Daniele Luttazzi was born in 1961, he is not witness, his quote paraphrases the TIME articles. ````
Books were published with titles containing the phrase Sick Jokes
This clucking one's tongue at the establishment's disdain for incivility or political opposition is not what I remember. I don't remember the title of the book my school chums got it from, but two truly sick jokes that were burned into my memory are : "What's red and sits in a crib?" "A baby teething on a razor blade." and "What's blue and sits in a crib?" "A baby exploring thie inside of a plastic bag." (There must have been only transparent plastic bags at that time.) Neither is the slightest bit 'progressive'. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
This article is framed largely as an objection to the term "sick" as an unfair pejorative imposed by the mainstream culture. Be that as it may, this group of comedians were commonly referred to as the "sick comedians". Some references:
- Thompson, Ethan (11 May 2011). Parody and Taste in Postwar American Television Culture. Routledge.
- Christgau, Robert (11 March 1973). "The Comedy Album Crop". Newsday.
- DeMott, Benjamin (1962). "An Unprofessional Eye: The New Irony: Sickniks and Others". The American Scholar 31 (1): 108–119.
- The Time link included in this article, while seeming (in retrospect) to largely miss the point (and pushing the term sicnics), also uses the word sick as a group identity.
By Christgau's accounting, the term strictly defined would include Lenny Bruce, Mort Sahl and Shelley Berman (misspelled "Shelly"), but more loosely can be applied to "jazz audience" comics of the time whose styles had broken from the "stand up one liner" style that preceeded them.
While the term can be annoyingly ambiguous because of vernacular usages of sick to mean off-color humor — I remember children using the term sick jokes to classify dead baby jokes (which doesn't belong in this article) and similar gross-out — this is the term that ended up being used to distinguish this new style of comedy from that which preceeded it. A hat note linking to Off-color humor should be sufficient to address that. / edg ☺ ☭ 20:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Copyedited, fixed some citations, and swapped in new tags for old. Someone more knowledgeable could expand this article considerably. Currently it leans excessively on two sources: Daniele Luttazzi (partially in unseen, offline material) and Lenny Bruce performances. I imagine other sources have history and critical analysis to contribute. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:56, 24 September 2014 (UTC)