Talk:Siddapura, Uttara Kannada

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Article name[edit]

This article was renamed from Siddapur, Uttara Kannada with the statement that this was a spelling correction. This is unjustified, since Siddapura is the correct transliteration of the name. In terms of web usage, Google books shows 5 results for Siddapura, Uttara Kannada, vs 3 results for Siddapur, UK. Google web searches for the same terms are in favour of Siddapura by 102k to 88k. Hence this article should be renamed in accordance with naming policy. Imc (talk) 10:43, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

There are many towns with name Siddapur/a. So the Google search is not the yardstick for determining the spelling. This one is commonly written as "Siddapur" locally. Do not stereotype all names. You are aware that one should use Common English names on Wikipedia and not transliteration of the name. Kindly note that your edits are eligible for revert and will be done so. Pdheg (talk) 16:53, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

(adding) Imc, you had moved this page a few months back from "Siddapur, Uttara Kannada" to "Siddapura, Uttara Kannada". Any reason you did not initiate a discussion before moving this page? Pdheg (talk) 19:16, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 17:56, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Siddapur, Uttara KannadaSiddapura, Uttara Kannada – The most common name, as shown in the web results, and reversal of undiscussed reversion, see above and also move history. --Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:27, 8 May 2014 (UTC) --Imc (talk) 19:08, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Support as nominator. Imc (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are many places with names Siddapur/ Siddapura in India. So a Google search of Siddapur/Siddapura will include all possible results including the closest word match. When you have multiple places with similar names, then Google search becomes unreliable to make decisions. "Siddapur" is the correct spelling as used by locals and people around. Do not move this page solely on the basis of Google search. Pdheg Talk 20:08, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
It is a lot more reliable a method than depending on someone saying "Siddapur" is the correct spelling as used by locals and people around. and who reverts other people's reasoned edits with a edit note saying it is vandalism. Especially when that someone thinks that the Kannada 'ಸಾರರ' is pronounced 'sagar' ([1]). Imc (talk) 17:22, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - google web searches with disambiguations (which were used above as well so as to limit false positives), within inverted commas, 86k – 2k in favour of Siddapura, Karnataka, see [2] against [3]. Imc (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: Some evidence is needed, because contested assertions will just lead to this discussion being closed as no consensus. If there is no consensus, the page should revert to the last stable title, which was Siddapura, Uttara Kannada
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:27, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Support as per nom. Siddapura is more commonly used of the two. Gsingh (talk) 02:33, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Please note that this page was unilaterally moved to Siddapura, Uttara Kannada earlier by user Imc without initiating a discussion. See the users' log dated January 29, 2011. |*| Anand.Hegde|*|Talk to me 04:01, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, this is correct, I moved it without discussion. As it was an uncontroversial move then , there is absolutely nothing wrong with that - see WP:TITLECHANGES. When a move is contested then it should be requested at WP:RM, as it says at WP:TITLECHANGES. To raise such discussions was pretty much the first communication that I made to you - see [4], now deleted. You ignored it and carried on making similar moves unilaterally, resulting in this current situation. Imc (talk) 20:18, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - to further explain what has been demonstrated in the searches above and at the corresponding page Siddapur Taluk, the searches have been made with disambiguations to restrict them to this particular name of this place and taluk. So the searches do show that the commonest usages for this town and the taluk are 'Siddapura'. The fact that multiple other places exist with similar names might cause some noise in the results, but the evidence clearly points to the old stable version. The original reason given for moving these to Siddapur was 'spelling correction', not that it was the common standard form. Imc (talk) 20:28, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.