Talk:Sigurd the Crusader

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved per consensus below. --rgpk (comment) 22:46, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Sigurd I of NorwaySigurd the Crusader – due to the Norwegian Crusade he's usually referred to with this name. Relisted. Favonian (talk) 09:33, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Alphasinus (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, in the context of the crusades that is certainly true (although I'm sure I see "Jorsafalar" just as often), but he was king of Norway and many other important things happened during his rule. It's normal on Wikipedia to use the "[Name] [Number] of [Country]" for kings, even when they do have other names (see Richard I of England for example...there are often move requests for him too). And Sigurd isn't like Sweyn the Crusader, who wasn't a king and is only known by his nickname. Adam Bishop (talk) 08:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
There has been a tendency to move Medieval Scandinavian away from "[Name] [Number] of [Country]" to "[Name] [Nickname]", - Harald Fairhair, [[Eric Bloodaxe], Harald Hardrada, Harald Bluetooth, possible others as well. Fornadan (t) 20:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
And rightly so - the former convention seems to be largely a Wikipedia invention. However, the real question is - what is the common name in reliable sources? It would seem to be Sigurd the Crusader from this evidence. Ben MacDui 07:55, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Note: links to this discussion have been posted on WT:ROYALTY and WT:Norway. — Favonian (talk) 09:33, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
  • No objection in principle - but the existing form (which conforms to the WP standard for royalty) should be retained as a redirect. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:24, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Style[edit]

I'd be interested to hear if anyone can provide a source for the statement: "he was also styled as King of Mann and the Isles". There is little doubt he became a ruler of the Kingdom of the Isles, albeit temporarily, but the titles of these rulers were very varied as you can see from the list. Ben MacDui 11:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)