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Untitled[edit]

Does anyone know all of the samples used on the album?, I've heard there's about 900 Jeffy 16:07, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think the list is on the cover of the CD. Dysprosia 08:15, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
As is noted in the article, there are (at least) two versions of the album. The version I have has no specific sample credits. From memory, the later version (with altered and removed samples) has much more text on the inside cover, with extensive sample source info (though I doubt it is comprehensive). La hapalo 03:18, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

<^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>[edit]

I took the liberty to change the spelling of the German legal entity to the correct "GmbH"

A sample in "A Different Feeling"[edit]

The song "A Different Feeling" contains samples in addition to Debbie Reynold's "Tammy". One of these samples is a classical piece with string instruments. Does anyone know what this is? Thanks in advance -cun 09:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio?[edit]

The production notes section reads like they were taken straight from the CD's booklet. Can someone provide a citation? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 16:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This has been removed, it was kind of listy and not really up to WP:Albums standards. Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:51, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Over which seas?[edit]

It says "Initial overseas versions had some samples removed." Since the band is originally Australian, and had much of their success in the UK, I'm wondering which region it is that had all the samples intact. -76.23.72.228 (talk) 23:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re-write[edit]

Hi all, I totally re-wrote this article. I hope no one minds too much. Please feel free to correct any of my horrendous grammar and spelling mistakes. Cheers! Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


DID YOU DELETE ALL THOSE INFORMATIONS FROM WHERE THE SAMPLES ARE FROM??!?!?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.195.127.235 (talk) 09:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did. We can't just list information unsourced. And that's in the album linear notes anyways and it's nearly trivial. Besides, the group admits that they don't even remember all the samples they use. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The samples can be added, at least if they're credited.
I think we should remove the samples. Discogs is not a reliable source and all the samples are not credited in the book either. I think it should be removed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:52, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As there was no further discussion for months. I'll remove those samples again. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Burbs sample[edit]

Does anyone have a source to confirm there is a sample from movie the Burbs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.59.197.109 (talk) 03:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 22:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    "The Avalanches which was released on 27 November 2000" - either put a comma after "which", or put a comma and remove "which was"
Done
  1. "The album was created in two separate near-identical studios by Chater and Seltmann passing audio mixes of records they sampled." - there should be a comma after "Seltmann", as they are both seperate clauses and don't make sense without comma
Done
  1. "various genres and styles of music" - style = genre
Done
  1. "In October 2000, during a performance in Brisbane, Seltmann broke one of his legs, whilst on tour through Europe he broke his other leg – so subsequent shows became DJ sets." - is it important to mention this in the lead, eg in this article?
Done' Still mentioned in main text.
  1. "and number 12 in Norway." - this should be mentioned in the text below; the same for the ARIA chart position. But as these charts are not very notable, I would mention the placing in the UK and USA, but this is up to you.
Done Kept Norwegian charting in Lead, a #12 there for an Australian artist is notable enough (whereas French charting is in Chart performance section but not in Lead). Mentioned both UK and US charting in Lead.
  1. Why are awards inside apostrophes?
Done I used them as single talking marks to differentiate award categories from song titles. But I've deleted them per your preference.
  1. The lead should not contain anything not explained in the bottom text, or else it would fail WP:LEAD
Done I think I've got all these.
  1. Either spaced n-dashes or unspaced m-dashes, see MOS:DASH
Done I think I've got all these.
  1. "Since I Left You was originally developed to be a concept album." - link concept album. Is it a concept album or not?
    This should be addressed
    I've addressed this now. Is that good? Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:00, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    12" and 7" should be linked for those who don't understand what is meant
Done
  1. "Darren broke his other leg leaving all of the rest of the shows of the tour to be DJ sets.[3]" - can you reword this, please?
Done
  1. "for Since I Left You.[26]" - no need to write for what, as we are talking about this album, and if you write a reception section and mention which awards, then it is logical for which album they received them
I've retained the album title here, the group won four awards that year from nine nominations, the fourth award win was for Breakthrough Artist – Single for the related "Frontier Psychiatrist". The album title is used to differentiate which awards were for the album and which were for other content. I hope this is clearer in both the Lead and the main text.
  1. "Since I Left You received " - you forgot to italicize
Done
  1. "included assembled a panel of experts ranging from Age critics " - I think this is a typo. If you remove "included", then it is fine
Done Other rewording applied.
  1. Overall ok
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Ref 23: Rolling Stone should be italicized
Done
  1. Ref 5: Could you find a better source?
Are you concerned by the Tiscali source? Or have I got the wrong one? (refs may have been renumbered since I started moving them around) In any case, I've added the Sound on Sound source as a back up: it covers the same information but is worded slightly differently.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  3. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  4. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  5. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
  • As a reader I would like to see a list of samples of films/etc they used here. If those are too many, then it is not required. ♫GoP♫TCN 14:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There was a list of the samples used previously, but it would never be complete as even the album doesn't list everything they sampled. This leads to a lot of users simply adding music they think they hear when listening to the album, so I'm not sure if it would be encyclopedic to include such an item. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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RfC: Should disco be included in the infobox?[edit]

The consensus is to include disco in the infobox.

Cunard (talk) 06:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Should disco be included in the infobox? Dan56 (talk) 16:13, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Votes[edit]

Discussion[edit]

The article currently cites a few notable sources mentioning disco, and there are other sources online that do so too:

The most explicit of this viewpoint is Christgau, who is cited in the article. Granted, "disco-pop" (NME) is not strong, but the others at the very least indicate in my opinion that this is more than a fringe viewpoint, and merits inclusion in the infobox. Dan56 (talk) 15:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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