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Former good article nominee Siti Nurhaliza was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
October 23, 2010 Good article nominee Not listed

Record sales[edit]

Does anyone know Siti's record sales?? Total sales? Or sales for any of her albums? If so,it would be nice to see it here. J87 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.77.118 (talk) 17:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


Neutrality[edit]

This article is badly in need of neutrality. See WP:NPOV. Brighterorange 21:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree that this article is sorely in such a need as mentioned above by Brighterorange.Arthur Oon 17:50, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

I dispute the neutrality of this article as well Shikinluv 01:48, 12 June 2005 (UTC)

I agree. I edited this article only to make the text more clear; the original that was on this site was straight off the artist's website.

I have noted that the series of edits to this article have not done much to bring it to the level of neutrality expected and I have freely edited the article as I have seen fit.I suggest to the pioneer contributor to perhaps add to the article some of her concerts or perhaps other aspects of her career which many users may not be familiar with rather than to constantly praise her ethereal voice of which other users have been, of no doubt, made aware of this fact. Arthur Oon 7 July 2005 19:13 (UTC)

I've given this a shot, though this is my first attempt. The only problem is that I seem to be removing a lot of detail in doing so. -x42bn6 08:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

60.49.116.240 has taken this article back to the original (i.e. the one that reads like an advertisement). Or did the second version also read like an advertisement? Should I revert? Nick L. 21:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I prefer the old version. It's easier to work on. But anyhow, both needs a clean up badly. how do you convert back to the old version? can someone do it. --Haniff 22:54, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Nick L. 00:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I've deleted the part where it says "foreign media praised Siti's perfomance in Albert hall." Will only approve this if there is a source. --Haniff 08:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Origin[edit]

By the way..who's this fellow??Haniff? Yes the medias praised her. I only got the clips of the foreign reporters. I know you are not Siti's fan. You shouldn't be here.

Do we really have to state the names of her sibblings? I need opinions before deleting it. If we browse the page of other international artis, i.e britney spears, i dont think they list the names of the sibblings. --Haniff 23:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Rework, please comment[edit]

I tried to rework the article and add some extra details while making it more NPOV. Please comment and feel free to edit as you see fit. Nick L. 01:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Malapropism[edit]

I came across the Wikipedia page for Siti Nurhaliza when I was reading the Wikipedia page on malapropism. A malapropism is using a similarly sounding word which has a totally different meaning than that intended by the speaker/writer.

One of the items listed in Wikipedia malapropism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism) in popular culture was: "My nipple."(i.e. dimple) — Malaysian singer Siti Nurhaliza when asked what is her best facial feature.

This Wikipedia page on Siti must have been written by Siti herself or someone who grew up with her. These are the malapropism and inappropriate phrases that need to be corrected.

In the section Career development:

In response to her successful performance. In her country also, she's known as one of the succesfull 'brand'+ businesswoman. She's currently been taught as 'Most Richest Artistes' in Malaysia.

This sentence is hanging. What is in response? In response to her successful performance.

What is the purpose of the word "also" In her country also, ...?

Did you mean

she is currently THOUGHT of as

rather than

She's currently been taught as

which in Malay would mean,

Beliau sedang sudah diajar sebagai. Or, in coloquil Malay, Beliau sedang kena diajar sebagai.

In Malay grammar, sedang sudah itself would be a conflict in tense.

What you meant must be

Beliau kini disangka sebagai.

It should be

She is currently thought of as.

To use "been", the predicate should imply a completed performance as in

In the past, she has been thought of as ... (and now she is no longer).

The phrase 'Most Richest Artistes' inappropriately uses redundant superlatives. Did you mean The Richest of Artistes

or The Richest of Most Artistes

or Almost the Richest of Artistes

or in singular the Richest Artiste?


Should be successful not successfull.

Should I say She is a beautifull woman or She is a beautiful woman?


I recommend rephrasing the sentence to

In her country, she is also known as one of the most successful businesswomEn and cultivated brandnames. She is currently thought of as the 'Richest Artiste' in Malaysia.

One [singular] of the [plural].
One [singular] among many.

One man of the greatest men alive.

is shortened to One of the greatest men alive.
Therefore it should be
One of the most successful businesswomen(plural).

She is the most successful artiste(singular, only one successful artiste and she is the one).
She is one of the most successful artistes(singular from a plural pool of extremely successful artistes).


In the section on Romance, I recommend rephrasing

Siti has previously been romantically-linked to many fellow artists including Zamani, Anuar Zain and Fazley.

to

Siti has previously been romantically linked to quite a number of fellow ARTISTES including Zamani, Anuar Zain and Fazley.


I recommend rephrasing

The rumour went that she would be getting married in 2006, to which her response was to neither deny nor confirm

to

The rumour went on that she would be getting married in 2006, to which she neither confirmed nor denied


I recommend rephrasing

Many surmise that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.

to

Many SURMISED that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.

Instead, this should have been more appropriate as the word surmise sounds too huge a word to be used in this context.

Many believed that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.


I have a problem with the logic of this sentence

which did not go down well with at least 49% of respondents to a local TV SMS.


It should be

which did not go down well with 49% of respondents to a local TV SMS.


What is the purpose of the phrase at least? When you take a statistical sample, you would say 49% of the respondents, even if it meant you had rounded the number to the nearest integer. 49 looks like an oddly deliberate number. Why not 45%, or half? To apply the term at least you need to show that you are estimating on the estmate of 49%. Yes, in Statistics you can make an estimation of an estimate. A statistical sampling is an estimate itself on the whole population.


More recently, in the past few years Siti was rumoured to be in a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman

should be rephrased to

More recently, Siti is being rumoured to be having a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman for the past few years.

Or did you mean

For the past few years Siti has been rumoured to be having a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman
?

In which case it is better to drop the phrase More recently to avoid confusion.


Datuk Khalid Mohamed Jiwa, who is 20 years older then her

should be rephrased to

Datuk Khalid Mohamed Jiwa, who is 20 years older THAN she.


Note the written malapropism (or typo?) then.


Comparatives using the accusative pronoun is frequently used that it almost becomes accepted coloquil usage. Not many people would call this a mistake nowadays but under certain situations it can create confusion.

One should say She is taller than I

rather than She is taller than me.

The reason is the implied I am tall as in
She is taller than I am tall.

She she can mount a horse faster than I can mount a horse.

which can be shortened to

She can mount a horse faster than I.

not

She can mount a horse faster than me.

because that would imply

She can mount a horse faster than she could mount me!


Redundant superlatives/comparatives are not acceptable. e.g.
The most fastest runner in the Boston Marathon.
Being a dog is more worst than being a fly.

This is Wikipedia/English. Do not use creole or pidgen English, unless quoting someone. Otherwise, this page should be moved to Wikipedia/Manglish or Malglish or Singlish or Spanglish, whatever.

I notice that in Wikipedia, you can recommend an article to the status of "needing tidying and grammatical correction". I don't know how to do that. Could someone switch this article to that status?

Miamidot 22:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Siti nurhaliza 27.jpg[edit]

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Cerita Legenda.[edit]

Kalifah. (Sensor, mana-mana pihak yang kebetulan ada kemiripan dengan cerita ini di harapkan bersabar)

Zaman Dahulu kala, di negeri iraq, hidup satu keluarga yang harmonis, hidup rukun, damai dan sakinah, keluarga ini memunyai beberapa orang putra dan putri. Enatah bagaimana pada suatu hari sang bapak tergereak hatinya untuk menunaikan rukun islam yang kelima. Setelah mendapat persetujuan keluarga maka bulat hati untuk melaksanakan, dan yang dipilih anak yang paling bungsu.

Pada hari yang ditentukan dengan bekal yang cukup, berangkatlah kedua beranak tersebut untuk menunaikan rukun yang kelima.

Pagi-pagi sekali, mereka bangun dan mempersiapkan semua peralatan yang cukup, dengan mengendarai onta, Setelah bersalaman dan dengan mengucapkan bismmillah berangkatlah kedua beranak tersebut. Kedua-duanyapun naik diatas onta, setelah setengah hari perjalanan maka sampai di satu kota pertama, akan tetapi banyak orang yang melihatnya ricuh, berkicau. Cam Ni...., Tak Patut...tak patut..adeke onta sekurus itu ditunggangi dua orang, tak kesian kat onta, tak patut..tak patut.

Saat istirehat makan, dan istirahat secukupnya keduanyapun melanjutkan perjalanan, tiba-tiba anak yang mendengar kericuhan warga kota yang dilewati memberi saran kepada bapak. Pak Tadi saya dengar orang kota bercerita tentang kita, kita di anggap tak kesian kat onta. Sekarang begini aja Bapak di atas onta dan saya tuntun onta ini, bagaimana pendapat saya. Ok..ok. I Duduk kat atas onta dan you tarik tali onta.

Keduanya pun melanjutkan perjalanan. setelah sampai di kota yang kedua, warga kota pun ricuh melihat nya. Tak Patut...tak Patut...Bapak goyang kaki kat atas onta, anak yang tuntun onta, tak kesian kat anak. Seperti biasa setelah cukup isterahat sebelum melanjutkan perjalanan anak memberi saran, Pak Tadi Warga Kota Pun ricuh melihat kita, sekarang saya yang kat atas onta, Bapak tuntunnnmm. OK you di atas onta I tuntun onta.

Setelah sampai kota yang ketiga Warga pun tetap ricuh, Tak patut....tak put.....Gagah segak....bapak lak yang tuntun onta. tak patu...tak patut.

Setelah isterah makam keduanya pun melanjutkan perjalanan. kedua-duanya jalan kakai. onta takde yang naik. Tapiiii bila sampai kota yang ke ketiga, wargapun reeeecooooooh juga. Buat apa onta kalau hanya dituntun.....tak patut...tak patut.

Akhirnya keduanya sepakat, setelah onta di ikat dengan rapi lalu dipikul,,,Bapak Pikul Ekor anak pikul bagian kepala.

Warga kota pun terbahak-bahak, melihat pemandangan aneh. Akhirnya Sang Bapak memberi saran kepada anak. Nak Ternyata onta ini hanya membuat kita susah, memberatkan hidup kita. dan rekasi warga kota, onta inilah penyebabnya. Apa macam kalau kita lepas onta ini. anak pun setuju, maka bebaslah keduanya dari ricuh warga kota.

1.Demikian cerita singkat yang mengadung arti yang berbeda. Mendengar Cemoohan orang lain, sementara

 apa yang kita lakukan adalah benar.

2.Demi warga kota, sanggup berendah diri dengan memikul onta, akan tetapi cemoohan juga yang

 dilempar warga kota padanya.

3.Cita-cita yang ketergantungan dengan onta......? haji pun batalll.


  1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.14.84 (talk) 08:48, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Biography[edit]

I'm looking forward to having a high-quality article on Siti Nurhaliza on Wikipedia, both in English and Bahasa Melayu, therefore I suggest that you simplify the info from sections Transkripsi (2006 – 2007) till SATU, Tahajjud Cinta and CTKD (2009) into one section to balance it with the rest of the content. The Romance part should be included in the Biography section. Fanatix 12:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

pronunciation[edit]

I deleted the pronunciation, which appeared to be neither English nor Malay. — kwami (talk) 02:02, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Siti Nurhaliza/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 21:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Linkrot: 1 fixed and 13 tagged as dead links.[1] Jezhotwells (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    The article does not meet the criterion of "reasonably well written. For example:
    Dato',[1] or occasionally Datin Seri,[2] Siti Nurhaliza binti Tarudin DIMP,[3] JSM,[3] SAP,[3] PMP,[3] AAP[3] (pronounced [siˈti nurˈhaliza binˈti taˈrudin] ; born January 11, 1979[3]) (Jawi: سيتي نورهاليز بنت تارودين) is a Malaysian singer, songwriter, record producer and businesswoman. is virtuallyunreadable.
    She rose to fame as a multiple-platinum selling artist, since her winning of Bintang HMI 1995 when she was only 16 where she was given offers in form of singing contract from four different international recording companies.
    Backed with 14 studio albums, she is one of the most popular artistes in the Malay Archipelago and Nusantara region and she has been voted nine times in a row for Regional Most Popular Artiste in the Anugerah Planet Muzik since 2001.
    These just from the first sections, there are many more throughout the article.
    Please get this article copy-edited by someone with a good command of plain English.
    The Lead section does not fully summarise the article, please read WP:LEAD
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    13 dead links found and tagged.
    Those sources that I could examine appear to be reliable
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Possibly too much detail, suggest splitting off discography to a separate article.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    Article is written overall in a rather promotional tone. Copy-editing could aid getting a more encyclopaedic style.
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    I note that captions for the two sound samples could be rephrased more clearly.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    This article needs considerable work to bring it up to good article quality. Please consider the above points and after copy-editing take it to peer review before renominating. Fail GA nomination. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

SitiZone[edit]

I think her official website is temporarily down, or under maintenance, till then, please don't remove the urls and links. XD SyFuelIgniteBurned 06:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Love the pic! :)[edit]

I mean the Sep 30 2010 one. Looks like a queen depicted in an ancient painting (the picture itself does look like a painting, too) :) -andy 77.7.111.132 (talk) 03:07, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Music in Indonesian language?[edit]

For me as a foreigner, Indonesian and Malay are near impossible to distinguish. :) You can see I'm not alone: linky Could anyone elaborate whether she released any songs in Indonesian, and if so, which? I can't believe she sold hundreds of thousands of records in Indonesian territory but sung everything in Malay... :-? -andy 77.7.111.132 (talk) 03:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi! I know the difficulty, because I have some International students friends who they too can't discern which one's which. Here's the thing, Siti used many Indonesian composers and lyricists in her albums, so some of the lyrics sounds Indonesian, and I think this is one of her ways to get accepted there, and this matter is great discussed some of Malaysian language purists. It is widely accepted that she sings in Bahasa Malaysia/Melayu, and not in Bahasa Indonesia. Feel free to ask at my talkpage. XD SyFuelIgniteBurned 07:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Adiwarna[edit]

Hello, Adiwarna has been tagged for notability for over six years, so is likely to be nominated for deletion. It mainly needs references, if anyone can help. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the info dear. It's gonna take some time for me since I'll start to work soon, so I might need some time to juggle my time here and there. I'll try my best to add more references whenever I can. Again, thank you so much! <3 SyFuelIgniteBurned 09:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)