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skaters getting bagged on[edit]

skaters just wanaa skate there going 2 shoot some one i meen all they wanna do is hang out and maybe go skate the local ten stai and even if its just out font no one should have the right to come out and say hey you stop skating i dont like it or stuuf like that like you no wat i meen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Activeskatekid411 (talkcontribs) 01:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

skateboarding[edit]

skateboarding has been around for a long time. it was invented by some surfers for when the waves were bad they could practice on street. and vert skating was invented by california kids that called them self the z-boys and they just droped in to a pool and vert was invented. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosean1234 (talkcontribs) 02:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

editing needed[edit]

The first two paragraphs on the '40s and '50s are repetitious. Kdammers (talk) 11:13, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

skate boarding also sucks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.225.195.131 (talk) 00:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The first section is also a word-for-word reproduction of this site: [1]. Of course it is possible that site stole it from Wiki, but I doubt it. GregE625 (talk) 00:16, 24 February 2010 (UTC) I HAVE SKATED FOR MANY YEARS I AM NOW IN MANY MINI CONTESETS I HAVE A SKATE PARK IN MY BASEMENT AND SKATEBOARDING STARTED WITHE DOG TOWN AND THE Z BOYS THE STARTED SKATINGM WHEN THEY COULDNT SURF OR WHEN THE WAVES WERE TO ROUGH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.161.142.155 (talk) 18:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

just because you skate in mini contests and stuff does not mean you know how skateboarding started. i am not directing this to anyone just saying.209.66.221.210 (talk) 21:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

See Also[edit]

Suggestion/question: should we add Snowboarding and Surfing to the "See Also" section, considering that they're both sports with similar concepts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.167.171.203 (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Skateboarding started when some kids used to put roller skates on the bottoms of two-by-fours. they would put upright posts on these contraptions, but they would often fall off. Rather than put a new post on, they'd sometimes just ride around the way they were. Eventually, someone patented this idea. over the years, many people elaborated on this concept, and skateboard tech has continued advancing to this day. Last word:) In my opinion, there are no norms in skating. My rule: BE YOU!66.8.240.225 (talk) 23:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


Pending changes[edit]

This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Edit request from 204.248.116.69, 16 September 2010[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} monkeys can skate

204.248.116.69 (talk) 13:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this site is a good idea?[edit]

So the other day I was thinking about going for a night skate session in the city, but I wasn't really sure of any specific spots. So, I decided to get on google (of course), and I really couldn't find a site with any reasonable collection of spots that I was interested in.

Anyways, since I've been looking for something like this for so long, and have found nothing, I decided to make it myself. However, I do have a few concerns about the matter. First of all, I want to get the opinion of local skateboarders as to whether or not they think this will be a useful tool. Another thing is that I'm worried that this will cause little kids to swarm all these spots we're documenting. I didnt think that would be a terrible issue, because most of the sick stuff is not the kind of thing you'd have little kids skating.. Also, any suggestions that you guys may have about this would be great. Let me know what you think

www.chicagoskatespots.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curewins (talkcontribs) 21:53, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 70.116.25.72, 2 January 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}

the kid that invented the ollie was 13. skateboarding started out with steel wheels. 70.116.25.72 (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done for now: They sound like interesting additions, but please provide a reliable source that supports them. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 12:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 216.246.134.209, 27 February 2011 Skateboard not invented in USA[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} I have uploaded to YouTube a video recorded from the Military Channels "Secrets of World War Two" showing Nazis riding what appears to be a modern skateboard. This video will prove that the skateboard was not invented in the united states. Below is the link to the video. My email address is [redacted] and my YouTube user name is mesavage999.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwxsay44LUY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


216.246.134.209 (talk) 02:41, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that's an interesting video, but I'm not convinced that a board with wheels on it that you sit on really qualifies as a "skateboard" in the modern sense, as described at Skateboard. This article currently states that no-one knows who made the first board and that probably several people came up with the idea around the same time, which is consistent with some people outside the US attaching some wheels to a flat board. It doesn't challenge the later claim that the first manufactured skateboards came from California. If you can find any reliable sources that discuss early boards outside the US, that info would be great to add. (I've redacted your email address to save you from spambots.) Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 02:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.90.142.138, 4 April 2011[edit]

I would like to clarify the history of the aerial.

As I know it and it can be confirmed by a photo of george orton from 1976 doing a bio aerial, tony alva's interview in skateboarder in 78 and the ollie history.

THe aerial's invention and development was NOT parallel and not in the 198o's.

Goerge orton invented and perfected the frontside aerial in 1976, there is evidence. What Orton "invented" was flying up and out of vert wall and then coming down that vert wall, the very first "air".

In 1977 Tony Alva learned the move he first saw Orton, do, and refined it by wraping his arm around his rear leg and not through them. (tuck knee)

In 1978 Alan Gelfand (with Jeff Duer kinda doing it as well, ask Alan and Jeff) mastered the vertical no hands frontside air, opening up skateboarding to so many unvelievable on hands airs.

Each did something fist. Fist air, Orton, first tuck knee fronstide air Alva, first no hands master, Ollie Gelfand,

76.90.142.138 (talk) 00:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Not done for now:That may well be true but we can't change the encyclopedia based on what you (or I, or anyone) says. Material included here must meet the standards of WP:RS, WP:V, WP:N, etc. The bottom line is that the first publication of something is never in Wikipedia (see WP:NOR). If you have a source for your information and want it to be reconsidered, post it here and change the "answered=yes" to "answered=no" in the template at the top of this section. Thanks! — UncleBubba T @ C ) 21:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

request[edit]

skateboard tricks are not called "stunts". someone please take down the picture of the asshole with the stick, it has no place on this page, move it to longboarding or somthing. peace 50.36.95.66 (talk)

I changed the wording from stunt to trick. unfortunately I won't take down the pic unless other editors agree that the article is best without it. Comments are welcome! -Travis Thurston+ 18:25, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I'll know better next time ***Adam*** (talk) 06:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Ollies[edit]

While the Oillie is certainly a fundamental skateboarding trick, I'm not sure this belongs in the *introduction* of a general article on skateboarding. It is definitely worthy of mention in this article, just not here, as not all forms of skateboarding are as dependent on this trick as street staking.--Axatax (talk) 07:10, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree, and have removed those sentences from the lead. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 08:27, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

xanax buy online[edit]

There are some fascinating deadlines in this article but I don’t know if I see all of them center to heart. There's some validity however I will take maintain opinion till I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we would like extra! Added to FeedBurner as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.241.13 (talk) 14:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Pushing skateboard with an "oar"[edit]

That guy in Hawaii pushing his board with a oar/bamboo shoot looks like a complete douschebag. I'm not even certain this can be classified as skateboarding. This seems like total hipster BS. I'm 99% certain he works for Oracle. 75.224.54.157 (talk) 04:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


Agreed. That dude is not skateboarding and I will remove the picture.24.51.222.35 (talk) 15:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Correction -- I tried to remove that pic. and the article is "protected".

That guy is not "skateboarding". He is "Kahuna Longboarding" (WTF kinda PC shit is this????). If he's "longboarding", then this should be in the *longboarding* article. He's not a SKATEBOARDER. He's a hipster poser and should be featured in the appropriate article.

Help![edit]

I added a "controversy" section in order to bring the skatestopper article out of orphan status. I don't think this entry belongs under the heading it's currently under (probably needs a new major section), but I don't know how to change this (I'm very new at this....).

Please don't think I'm anti-skateboarding -- I'm not. I've been impaled by these devices on several occasions which is why I composed the Skatestopper article (the property owners installed a pair of these devices at the very bottom of an escalator we used to skate down inbetween in Fort Lauderdale, FL.) Axatax (talk) 07:52, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 December 2012[edit]

Isaiaha16 (talk) 20:42, 17 December 2012 (UTC) skate bording you always have to ware protection if u feel like u k=look dumb .. you shouldnt cuz look the pros ware them ? so why shouldnt you

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. —KuyaBriBriTalk 22:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Who invented the skateboard?[edit]

By Nicholas A. Chavez Many people claim to have invented the first skateboard, and some even patented their ideas. Let’s look at some of those patents. The essence of a skateboard is a wheeled vehicle with axles that pivot on opposing diagonal axes (like the letter V) which allows it to be steered by tilting the deck. With few exceptions, all other wheeled vehicles are steered by the front axle that pivots on a vertical or near vertical axis: wagons, scooters, cars, bicycles, coasters, even unicycles. One exception is in-line skates and the like which travel in a straight line and are steered by lifting it off the ground and setting it down on new direction. The only relevant exception is quad skates. But unlike quad skates, the skateboard is not ridden in pairs, and is not attached to the foot by strap, clamp, clip, hook, lace, string, rope, tape, Velcro™, shoe, boot, nor by any means. That’s why grip tape was invented. Some who claim to have invented the first skateboard, invented something with a fixed or non-pivoting rear axle, which is more wagon-like than skateboard-like. Claims to be first have been made for things with both front and rear axles fixed and non-pivoting. Some have even claimed pairs of wheeled foot-things or skate-like things as the first skateboard. I think they have missed the essence of what a skateboard is. The modern skateboard came directly from clamp-on quad skates. Thomas Welch’s “skateboard” invention (5,236,208 - 1993) has both front and rear axles pivot vertically 360 degrees plus. Each axle is steered independently by a horizontal foot pad (steering wheel). Any air and you never know which direction the wheels are going to be when you land. You could mark the front and rear steering wheels. Even then, you couldn’t correct it until you had grip after you land, which is probably too late to prevent a wipeout. It misses being a skateboard on so many counts. The Humco Surfer used trucks that were patented by Albert Boyden (3,023,022 - 1962). They had wide track wheels and steel springs instead of the narrow track and rubber pad of roller skates that was used by other skateboards at that time. The Skeeter Skate was Henry Kinslow’s invention (2,474,946 - 1949). It was a scooter with a metal riding surface, a tall handle, and large wheels. Without the handle, this was a low-slung skateboard. The earliest patent for skate+board belongs to E. S. Eggs (1,247,801 – 1917) for his “Riding Attachment for Roller Skates”. His wood deck had two tandem blocks beneath. To each block he attached a whole, unmodified, clamp-on, roller skate. There was even a hole through the block for the ankle strap. When assembled, this was an 8-wheel skate-board. The very first patent for a skateboard was issued to Francis X. LaChall of Seattle, WA (0,887,812 - 1915). That’s almost a century ago. That’s like World War One time. They were still using horses then. His invention did not use skate-like trucks which had already been invented, but had wide-track, steel spring trucks; and off-road wheels. The tilt steering was controlled through beveled rack and pinion gears front and rear. His description included a child sitting on it coasting downhill (the reason for the short T-handle), and someone using it by standing on it. Too bad nothing came of it. I can’t even imagine what skateboarding would be like today if it had started here and had another 50 years of stunning advances. (LaChall's patent drawing available) Nicholas A. Chavez (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Note: I moved this from a 2011 request above and made it its own request. Stalwart111 03:10, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
  • While it's a very nice essay, Wikipedia does not allow the inclusion of original research and patents are not considered a reliable independent source. If you have a third-party source for any of the information above, feel free to make a formal edit-request asking for the information to be included. Stalwart111 03:10, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

The growing popularity and style of skateboarding is something that is intriguing to many.The artistic aspect is most interesting to me. The sport is very difficult and hard to master,as is any. Skateboarding is unique in its own way. There is a lot of culture behind it, from clothing style to lifestyle. This sports growing popularity is taking the world by storm. Ten years ago it was something that was frowned upon by many due to the nature of the sport. Today it is becoming an accepted part of society due to its artistic value. The videos and photography of professionals depict amazing stunts which can only be done by someone as skilled as they are. This is intriguing to many, recently over the past 10 years established TV networks like ESPN and ABC have covered skateboarding contests and events. Companies like Nike, the most established shoe line in the nation has a special line for skateboarding shoes.Companies like Puma,Adidas, and New balance who primarily deal with more established sports are "dipping their hands" into skateboarding. The cultured clothing and other skateboarding merchandise is in high demand as well. There is great opportunity within this sport for everyone and it is a great individual and team sport for all ages.

Good-faith move from where this was pasted above. Stalwart111 00:02, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Locked article[edit]

Look.

Three people have already objected to the pic of that dude pushing a "skateboard" with a stick.

That is NOT skateboarding.

That is some type of long boarding, and belongs in it's own article, or in the "asshole" article.

I'm removing it, but because it's a duplicate of material at Longboarding. Your personal distaste for variations is inconsequential. Stalwart111 07:58, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Skateboarding Edit/Draft[edit]

I am seeking consensus with other Wikipedians for a very large/comprehensive edit of the article on Skateboarding based on the reference material I have found. Anyone that would be able to assist with this edit/draft process please feel free to jump in and start editing the edit/draft located here: User:Tinkermen/SandboxGH

Also please see the edit/draft page's talk page for comments about what may need to be addressed next in the process. Tinkermen (talk) 20:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

International[edit]

I note references to France where a form of skateboard was used in the 1940's, and a picture of skateboarding in Afghanistan. It would be useful if someone could add a section about how the sport evolved worldwide, as currently most information is centered on the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.174.252 (talk) 13:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

The word "denoted" is being used wrongly in this article[edit]

The word "denoted" is being used wrongly in this article. "Termed" would be a correct replacement. 86.164.246.89 (talk) 20:52, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2013[edit]

CITATION NEEDED: The "Controversy" section of this article asserts that companies install skate stoppers to prevent "perceived damage". This is an unsupported claim in need of citation. It's possible that these devices are installed for liability/insurance or other reasons. 110.174.173.155 (talk) 03:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Mlpearc (open channel) 21:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Which would be the insurance companies attempting to prevent perceived or potential damage to persons or property. I'm not saying it doesn't need a citation but let's not read things so narrowly as to change the meaning. Stalwart111 22:00, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

References[edit]

So I want to edit skate articles. Lots of them. Maybe all of them.

I just worked on the anti-skateboarding section, because I've been writing about a plane crash and it wasn't fun and I needed to do something more fun. There aren't any references. But it was definitely a lot more fun than plane crashes.

References are going to be something of a problem. How have people been dealing with the citation needed thing? So much knowledge about skating is shared knowledge that everyone will know and understand. I don't really believe in googling for the reference I need and putting the first thing into a box just so there's a reference there. But I guess there has to be something. Roches (talk) 19:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

The first thing you might like to do is to join those of us at the Skateboarding WikiProject. There has been a concerted effort (since last year) to source and improve skateboarding articles. Your contributions would be enthusiastically welcomed. I did undo your edits but only because this edit replaced sourced content with unsourced original research. There's nothing wrong with what you wrote but we need sources. There's a bit of discussion on the Project talk page about finding sources.
Either way, you should try to avoid adding information which is based in your personal experiences. Start with reliable sources and craft content from there. Stalwart111
  • Thanks... I didn't mean editing all of them, I just said that... I think I knew there was a project and joining that is the most obvious thing to do. So I joined. That section had anti-skate bias. I thought I'd change it to pro-skate bias. (That's what led to the parts about metal brackets on impossibly high ledges.) More importantly, the link to Skatestopper was (WP:advertising) a specific device.
Anyway thanks for letting me vent the wiki-frustration even if it took a couple minutes of your time. Roches (talk) 10:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
  • That's great! The link to Skatestopper isn't really advertising; it's an internal link to a Wikipedia article about the only specific anti-skate device (so far) to generate enough significant coverage to be considered notable (though some of the coverage seems to have gone missing; I'll work on that). That whole section used to be about that product but the content was split out into its own article. I'm all for you adding the content you proposed, I just don't think it needs to be in place of what is there. Better to have both and if we can find a source for your info (especially the computer game stuff) that'd be even better. Add your information and balance that section out - both sides of the story rather than bias one way or the other. Happy to spend the time on it. Stalwart111 10:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2014[edit]

I am planning on editing the external link of "Skateboarding Kings" to "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2bRvseoFOo" due to the fact that the link is dead. Also I planned on adding another external link to the social network for skateboarding "The Skate Network" "http://www.theskatenetwork.com" Aeiro (talk) 22:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done The first appears to be a copyright violation - the second appears to be non-notable - unless you can cite reliable independent sources referring to it- Arjayay (talk) 17:10, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2014[edit]

Please change the piped link to the street skating article in this sentence (which is located at the end of the first of the two paragraphs in the 1980s section):

As most people could not afford to build vert ramps, or did not have access to nearby ramps, street skating increased in popularity.

to a piped link with the following text:

[[Street skateboarding|street skating]]

Thank you very much for your co-operation. 88.104.104.184 (talk) 15:22, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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