Talk:Slaughter & The Dogs

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References to Compilations[edit]

  • In his / her eagerness to delete what was thought of as 'trivia', Spylab also mucked up all the references (at the bottom of the page) from number 3 onwards. Also, sadly, the track 'Cranked Up Really High' does not appear on numerous compilations. The Paul Morley compilation is also noteworthy because of the prior statements in the article regarding the Manchester punk scene. (The compilation in question being an overview of Manchester's, and Liverpool's, punk, new wave and post-punk). Yozzer66 (talk) 23:45, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  • 'Streets' is widely regarded as a seminal compilation album. 'Oi! the Album', and others like it, are a mere historical footnote (if that). Yozzer66 (talk) 19:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm quite certain that more people today have heard about Oi! the Album than Streets. The only source showing that Streets is a notable compilation is one non-famous punk website.Spylab (talk) 19:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

More Americans may have heard of Interpol than Joy Division. More Brits may have heard of Greenday than Stiff Little Fingers. What's your point? As someone who lived through the punk era, I can assure you that 'Streets' had significance; some of which only became obvious with the passage of time. It was the template for all future 'samplers' of British 'indie' labels. Yozzer66 (talk) 19:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

  • On Wikipedia it is not up to individual editors to "assure" anyone of anything. They have to provide reliable references to back up their factual claims. Perhaps you can seek out more references that show the notability of Streets, instead of just one little-known punk rock website.Spylab (talk) 20:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The description of the album’s significance in the article was not mine, or any Wikipedian’s, but a fully referenced source. If you do not believe it is a fair description then find a contradicting source and fully reference it. Yozzer66 (talk) 20:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, and that reference is a single obscure punk rock website, which hardly meets Wikipedia's standards of verifiability and reliable sources.Spylab (talk) 20:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • On this and other discussion pages, you keep on referring to trakMARX as an 'obsure' source. Just take the time and look at the people you wrote for it... Whilst not quite a veritable A-Z of the British punk scene, it is a fairly impressive list! Instead of attempting to discredit a fully referenced source, why not allow the reader to reach his/her own conclusions. They can easily trace the source of the assessment. Yozzer66 (talk) 21:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is just one largely-unknown punk rock website; hardly an overwhelming list of reliable souces. Also, you keep reverting the text so it seems as if the website's opinions are absolute fact, thus violating Wikipedia's standards for neutral point of view.Spylab (talk) 21:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Spylab, the quotation marks around the Seminal description should speak for themselves. I welcome your contributions. The article 'Slaughter & the Dogs' had only been edited twice in six months before I began work on it. It wasn't in a good state. As this is only one of numerous articles I'm currently attempting to improve, it's good to share the load. Yozzer66 (talk) 21:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)