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- 3 Rebellions or Conspiracies
- 4 er, where is spartacus?
- 5 Biggest fear
- 6 Why are serf peasant revolts discussed in this article?
- 7 "The most successful slave uprising in the Americas was the Haitian Revolution"
- 8 Union strikes & slave rebellions same?
- 9 Copy editing
- 10 1811 Slave Rebellion in LA
- 11 Images
- 12 The Christiana Riot
"North America" Section
slaves had like the biggest right to revolt agaisnt leaders more than anyother people in the whole world.they were treated like crap and got even more for doing the things they wre asked to do
Agreed. I know I'm a bit biased (I'm a descendant of African slaves myself), but I couldn't agree more. One question though. Were there any notable slave revolts in Asia or pre-colombian America? The page does a pretty good job of trying to incorporate revolts from all over along with African-American slave revolts.
Rebellions or Conspiracies
Serbia was so poor, their people ate rocks. It would be useful to clarify the distinction between rebellions that actually happened, and plans for rebellions (often referred to as conspiracies, plots, etc.) that were betrayed or discovered by slaveholders before an uprising began.
This is particularly relevant in the case of slavery in the United States (and colonial North America), where there were relatively few actual revolts compared with say the Caribbean or Latin America. Herbert Aptheker's 1940s claim of 'documentary evidence of more than 250 uprisings or attempted uprisings was a useful corrective to the then prevalent 'Gone with the Wind' image of happy, docile slaves and generous masters. However, virtually every historian of slavery since then has acknowledged that Aptheker overstated his case to make his point.
Of the 'List of North American Slave Revolts', for instance, the New York 1741 affair, and the plans of Gabriel, Denmark Vesey and John Brown did not result in actual rebellions by slaves, even though all three men, and many other people were killed for their pains. Much the same seems to be true of the George Boxley affair.
Having said that, I'm not trying to argue for the removal of these incidents from the article - Gabriel and Denmark Vesey's efforts in particular were hugely significant events in the history of American slavery, slave resistance and so forth in the nineteenth century.
Unless there's disagreement, I will look at trying to sub-divide the list into actual and planned rebellions; this would also give scope for including several significant conspiracies that aren't currently on the list, such as the 'Secret Keeper' affair of the 1790s, the only known instance of a plan for rebellion that possibly encompassed people in more than one state. --Sonthonax 12:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Agree. Also, do you know of a rebellion around Natchez, MS where slaves "laid plans to kill their owners and set themselves free. When word leaked out, local whites hanged at least forty blacks..." I read it in an essay by David Williams, 2005, called "My God! Are We Free?", and I do not have sources. :) Mathwhiz 29 (talk) 03:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
er, where is spartacus?
well?Tourskin 23:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
"And are amongst the most feared events for slave owners". Well, obviously? Kind of redudant, if you ask me. Popperipopp 21:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are serf peasant revolts discussed in this article?
Serfdom is fundamentally distinct from chattel slavery. Much like, for example, modern exactions from citizens like income tax and military draft, are fundamentally distinct from serfdom. So why are peasant revolts like Pugachev's, Razin's or English peasants' revolt of 1381 listed here? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 02:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Go read about serfdom, and see for yourself... Just because one couldn't be sold, it didn't mean that their lot was much (or often, any) better than a slave's. Although serfs weren't physically fettered, they were forbidden to leave their lords' fiefs under harsh penalties, were subjected to degrading, whimsical and arbitrary treatment - and on top they had to pay whatever taxes theyr lords demanded, lest they be outlawed, their lands confiscated and themselves hunted down like animals (and don't think on appealing to a court, as the judge was - guess what, the lord himself)! As for their so called "rights", they're but bad joke...Maegil (talk) 10:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
"The most successful slave uprising in the Americas was the Haitian Revolution"
With this one sentence, the editor managed to: a)belittle the Haitian revolution, and; b)show his/her bias to Americocentrism! Must I remind that this was the ONLY successful slave revolt EVER to permanently succeed, in the not just in the Americas but ANYWHERE on the planet (even granting for some slaves having managed to escape in other revolts before they were crushed)?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maegil (talk • contribs) 10:33, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Union strikes & slave rebellions same?
Does anyone know if anyone has EVER compared strikes with slave rebellions which look like & are the same things: slavery of the masses to make a few masters rich? Stars4change (talk) 01:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
This article seems disjointed, and needs to adopt a consistent style. All the information is there (as far as I can tell, I am not an expert in this topic). But every section uses different formatting and style. I think it needs one big stabilising edit. Andrewaskew (talk) 04:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC) biggest slave is rahul
1811 Slave Rebellion in LA
I was looking at the list for slave rebellion in North America and noticed that this rebellion is not listed even though it involvement had 500+ slaves involved. It slightly linked to 1791 slave rebellion that took place in LA due to the Haitian Revolution. So if anyone is thinking of adding this rebellion or researching this particular rebellion?--Iluvfassy (talk) 13:53, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Is there any reason this page may not have any images on it? The University of Virginia library website has a lot of great images on their database that I believe could be useful to this page. One of the images I found would be this image of a poster of an open letter to rebellious slaves. http://hitchcock.itc.virginia.edu/Slavery/details.php?categorynum=16&categoryName=Physical%20Punishment,%20Rebellion,%20Running%20Away&theRecord=83&recordCount=87 Cmcgonigal (talk) 08:45, 04 December 2012 (UTC)
The Christiana Riot
I believe the Christiana Riot is a very important slave rebellion that took place in Christiana, Pennsylvania. It isn't on this page, nor does it have its own Wikipedia page. I think it is pretty important and essential to have, as it was one of the rebellions that really showed slaves were trying to gain their freedom through violence. There aren't too many sources out there, but a couple of good scholarly articles are out there on the topic. What does anybody else think of that? Cmcgonigal (talk) 10:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)