Talk:Slovak Uprising 1848–49
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"Slovakia was a part of the Kingdom of Hungary" Slovakia in 1848?
This is my first target article for improvement in the WikiProject Slovakia, so it may be updated at irregular though hopefully succinct intervals. Anyone wishing to help is welcomed! Demokratickid (talk) 18:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Okay first update is up, much more work to still be done including fleshing out my source citations which I do have. Demokratickid (talk) 23:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I put some template to the article on the ground that Demokratickid's edits are based on Slovak POV sources. While I am admitting that Demokratickid is very proficient in the English language, his/her addition is a drivel ,which hoodwinks the readers of Wikipedia rather than conveying them realible information. The most howling problem is that that the article triggers a false semblance that if Slovakia had existed as early as the 19th century at least in informal form. Ludovit Stúr and his chums such as Jozef Miloslav Hurban, Michal Miloslav Hodža, Janko Kráľ, Ján Francisci Rimavský were not not equal partners of Kossuth Lajos. The "Slovak militia and peasant guerrillas" name is beyond ridiculosness. In fact, the Slovaks also supported the Hungarian Revolution of 1848, Ludovit Stúr's group have no many supporters, and they were hired by the Habsburg emperor without recognition and reputation even among the Slovaks. Funny to see names like Budapest and Bratislava in historical context. These addition are not possible to corroborate with Hungarian sources, and they say the opposite than what are in Špiesz's writing and the Connecticutian travel guide. In short, these sources aren't veracious, aren't trustworthy; they are good for nothing more than to promulgate Anti-Hungarian sentiment on the English Wikipedia. This addition should be deleted in whole, pursuant to Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Also it is interesting to note that Demokratickid divulged a basic level familiarity of the Slovak language on his/her own user page in the meantime he/she works from Slovak sources that recall the most wildest Slovak POV.--Nmate (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sir, I am not even close to being done with the edits to this article which are going to include a much more varied range of opinions, including detailing those Slovaks who did support the Hungarian revolution. As I have stated above this article is very very much a work in progress and I am simply updating it as I work. More sources and more history context will be provided as time goes on. I have no interest in promulgating any sort of anti-hungarian sentiment as I find the whole Slovak/Hungarian issues entirely childish. Though many sources do not agree with what one says, it is only fair that all viewpoints be provided. As time goes on I will be citing such sources as Ridpath's History of the World, Edition 5 published in 1907 which gives the Hungarian cause a very favorable write up. While I appreciate your concern and acknowledge you are operating under good faith, ask you to respect my attempts at making this article better overall and also acknowledge that there is still a long way to go. The main article on the Hungarian uprising, it can be argued though I care not to argue it, is biased as well towards Hungarian opinion. This is an article about the events occurring in Slovakia around these events, and therefore I will not be covering the entirety of the Hungarian revolution as that is adequately cared for in other articles, but will rather focus on the Slovak realm of this fascinating conflict. This article is not my soapbox, has never been and will never be. I love history and I will not be put off by your objections. if you wish to help me and collaborate with me on this article, I would welcome it. I understand that this would be difficult as your personal opinions would naturally diverge greatly from a historical middle-ground as any quick look at your talk page would make plain. I ask you to please respect my work and I shall respect yours. Very sincerely, Demokratickid (talk) 18:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
The newest and relatively final installment is in, though by no means is this article finished. I would still like to add more Hungarian perspective so anyone willing to help in writing that is welcomed to contact me here or otherwise. Also, in the final summation of their opinion, I removed some of the more contentious language from Anton Špiesz and Dušan Čaplovič 's summation of the era so that it would not offend Magyar reader while still maintaining the spirit of their scholarly opinion. As always, any suggestions or offers of genuine help to make this article better are appreciated! :) Demokratickid (talk) 03:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I think the part dealing with the Slovak perspective should somehow incorporate the fact that tens of thousands of Slovak honvéds fought for the Hungarian govenrment, including former regular batallions who could easily defect to the Austrians. In fact Slovaks contributed disproportionately larger percent of the volunteers than any other nationaly in the Kingdom of Hungary, including Hungarians.
- Step 1: Find a source and add it to the article.
- Step 2: ????
- Step 3: PROFIT EllsworthSK (talk) 23:39, 20 October 2011 (UTC)