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Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2023[edit]

Near the end of the page about the current 2023 cast, I suggest changing “Hecox” to “Ian Hecox” because it better reflects the syntax of the sentence, since everyone else is fully named. Jeffthecreeper1 (talk) 04:46, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please be more specific on which section you're referring to. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 15:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge "List of Smosh cast members" back into this page[edit]

As it says in the title, I propose that this article be remerged into the main Smosh article. Currently the makes no sense in having a complete duplication of the "history" section on the main page, but when I removed this it was reinstated arguing that its removal renders the page too lacking to justify its own existence.

As a result there are two things as I see it:

A - Remerge and just put the tables and graphs back in the main page.

B - Delete the history section and actually justify the cast members page's existence by detailing more in regards to the cast with reliable sources. Apache287 (talk) 15:16, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose - Per WP:MOSLIST, articles about lists typically have an introductory lead that goes into the history of said list topic plus the general scope of what the list covers. It's not uncommon for lists to have lengthy intros of the topic, especially for featured lists (for example, List of Megadeth band members). The history section can be rewritten as a proper introduction that focuses more on the cast members themselves. As for notability, there are several articles that do discuss the Smosh cast both collectively and focusing on specific members, such as those from Polygon, Screen Rant, Tubefilter, The Daily Dot, Mashable, Insider, The Hollywood Reporter and Variety. I do vote weak oppose however because not every cast member has been covered in reliable sources to justify their inclusion in the list (a good majority have though), which does bring some verifiability issues. I'm still looking for sources however so there may be more that exist. PantheonRadiance (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The point here though is the topic itself is so "small" in terms of its notability that essentially that "introductory lead" duplicates a good third of the main article, which outside of making it redundant also creates the already existing issue of having two different versions that aren't kept in sync. Either the cast page needs to only talk about the cast members (which you yourself don't appear happy with given the re-introducing of the entire history section) or we just keep the unique bits from it and put them back in this page. Apache287 (talk) 09:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at various featured lists, I've often found that they may often duplicate some info from their parent article in order to provide context of the topic itself, and that's a fairly inevitable aspect of lists. However, such lists also provide sufficient info about said topic that wouldn't necessarily fit into its parent article, and I believe this Smosh list qualifies as a valid split. Although I agree that some duplicated info should be rewritten and/or removed, the sources I provided go into detail on Smosh's cast history along with discussing the members themselves that can be expanded on in greater detail on the separate page. Instead of deleting, we can merely rewrite it to include info about the cast members that would otherwise bloat the already long Smosh page. For example, the Insider source discussing Mari's issues with mean comments, Daily Dot and Mashable discussing when Shayne, Keith and Courtney joined, Kotaku reporting Flitz's departure and so on. PantheonRadiance (talk) 05:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is usually some duplication in the lead but the lead should be very simple and relevant to the matter at hand, so the lead of "band members of x" may share some similarities it shouldn't be a word for word history of the band itself. Apache287 (talk) 16:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the Opposition laid out by @PantheonRadiance. Another reason this page was created was to clean up the main page. As it stands right now, that page is an utter mess, and this was was created to help it look cleaner and organize a collection of information that other users seem very passionate about cataloging. Rather than keep a bloated collection of information on an already bloated page, it felt more reasonable to separate the two so that cast members can keep being listed in a way that is more organized and straight to the point (similar to the list of SNL cast members not being on that main page). PopDisaster182 (talk) 19:29, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose seems fitting for its own page, and plenty of series have their own character pages if theres enough info whcih there seems to be here.Muur (talk) 06:55, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Smosh[edit]

has 26 million now 2607:FEA8:C80:41F0:F418:9947:F041:613B (talk) 00:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2024[edit]

Currently in the history section in the first paragraph under Formation and lip sync videos (2002–2006) it says "Other content creators in the pre-YouTube era would also upload videos to smosh.com, including future YouTuber TomSka.[citation needed]". The source for this is the video The TomSka Iceberg Explained #CONTENT at 16:48.

I'm not able to add this as a source due to the semi-protected status of the article, and so I am requesting another editor to add it, please. Universe25 (talk) 13:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. YouTube videos are not considered reliable sources on WP. PianoDan (talk) 23:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shall this be the new photo for the page?[edit]

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Smosh_in_2024.jpg RobertPalvon (talk) 20:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, we cannot use copyrighted images here, especially when free ones already exist. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2024[edit]

Where it say "The Smosh Games channel uploads every Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. The videos consist of playing video games, board games and card games, with various recurring games and series." under the "Channels" section, Tuesday should be changed to Wednesday, due to their new uploading schedule Lxlilalxl (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Irltoad (talk) 21:53, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]