Talk:Snježana Kordić

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POV[edit]

One might say that the article in whole suffers from POV problems, but I've limited myself to the "Monograph on language and nationalism in Croatia (2010)" section. To say simply that:

The monograph has received a lot of media attention.

is a substantial distortion. The book received severe (albeit not universal) criticism and created a major controversy. Even if some (most?) of it could be attributed to the right-wing critics, the absence of this information leaves the impression that Kordić's book (and her work in general) has mainstream acceptance, which is not nearly true. GregorB (talk) 15:51, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Hallo GregorB, thanks for your suggestions. I’ve now added a new passage on criticism, as you proposed. The sentence you cited has now been moved to the new passage. I’ve also added some new references. I hope that the article is now much more in accordance with the Wiki-guidelines. Best regards, Darigon Jr. (talk) 15:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Much better now, so I've removed the tag. Thank you for your effort. GregorB (talk) 15:49, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

POV 2[edit]

Although I agree with Ms. Kordić's sociolinguistic positions (in fact they are so straightforward and adopted outside Croatia that restating them in book form seems derivative and banal to a linguists acquainted with elementary basics of sociolinguistics such as myself), one should point out that this looks like a vanity article. We don't usually state how many interviews a biographic article subject has given, and we certainly don't list links to them all in a dedicated subsection. Subsections "Education" and (clumsily titled) "Appointments" should be merged under the title "Career" or something like that. We also don't need to have separate subsections for each of the three books she published, and we don't need seven verbatim reviews for her books from sources which are not even notable enough to have their own Wiki articles. And we certainly don't need a catalogue of 57 related links in the See also section. And there is a lot of context missing (saying that her book was "among the five titles nominated for book of the decade in the field of peacebuilding, nonviolence and human rights." is meaningless without saying by whom; the article calls her critics "right-wing sides" which is pretty vague as not even Kordić describes them as such - she refers to those as "jezikoslovci" or "kroatisti" or perhaps "nacionalisti" at best; also, saying that "an association of persons" tried filing a lawsuit is equally vague and meaningless). The overall effect is that the article looks like it was written by Kordić herself, or by somebody who has a crush on her (or the concepts she writes about) - which is probably much more likely. Can't we just stick with who she is, what she does, what she is notable for and the effect her work has had? Timbouctou (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Why don't you apply the suggested fixes yourself? I agree it's an atypical biographical article that needs to be rewritten and trimmed in parts. But that's not a POV issue but rather that of MOS. Both positive and negative aspects of Kordić's work are mentioned AFAICS.
Regarding right-wingers - purism in Croatia is not an exclusive a domain of right-wing language fascists, but purism as such is generally associated with right-wingers, and all right-wingers are either sympathetic or openly espouse it, and all of them oppose Kordić's ideas. Citations could be provided for that if necessary. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 22:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Sigh... The article has been on my to-do list for quite a while. WP:FANCRUFT is a rather pronounced problem. Isolated POV statements are normally easy to fix, but this requires significant work. GregorB (talk) 13:54, 26 July 2014 (UTC)