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Redirect[edit]

Back in July I edited this article to redirect to Social network as a "social graph" doesn't seem to mean anything different from "social network". The recent edits add one sentence explaining what a "social graph" is (which doesn't seem to be anything different from a "social network"), and a paragraph on what graphs are (and a misleading one at that; a graph is a mathematical structure, though there may be ADTs that correspond to implementations of an interface corresponding to a machine representation of graphs). Thus I think it's still best if this page redirects to Social network. SparsityProblem 16:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Agree. Nauseating how Fakebook drives its marketing campaigns through Wikipedia; "social graph" is a word pair coined specifically for their "open graph" product that aims to get web page owners to participate in building FB's search database without payment (other than chance to drool after the XYZ million/billion potential visitors). I'd very much appreciate a non-Open-Graph-related definition of the term; if there is none, redirect to Social_network_(disambiguation) or Open Graph (that actually redirects to Facebook platform). No reason a company should get preferred Wikipedia pages for its product's separate features or product-specific jargon. --Sigmundur (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
also, take a look at the "Did you know?"-box on this talk page. Doesn't that disgust you? Does Talk:Operating_system have a "A fact from Operating system appeared on did you know as follows: 'did you know almost everyone on the planet uses Microsoft's Windows operating system? The whole world, that's a lot of people!'"? --Sigmundur (talk) 06:10, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't disagree with an exception[edit]

Social Graph is a currently popular term and should be recognized for what it is rather than sub-sorbed into the Social Network page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolblueskies (talkcontribs) 16:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Can you explain what the difference is between a social graph and a social network? Better yet, add an explanation of that to the article, since it doesn't currently describe what a "social graph" is in any way that makes it different from a social network. SparsityProblem 20:57, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Since graphs can be directed or undirected, why not use the dominant term with a mention of the secondary term in the lead paragraph? Also, the article Network theory says it deals with the "study of graphs". mordel (talk) 19:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== This page should stand on its own because Social Graph is a special concept promoted by Facebook and is different from other incidences of social networking.//FengWenFengWen (talk) 12:51, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Social graph vs. social network, again[edit]

I find the current revision of this article to be so incoherent as to verge on patent nonsense. In theoretical computer science, the terms "network" and "graph" are interchangeable (see Network theory.) The article fails to make any persuasive or even coherent argument that the notion of a "social graph" differs from the notion of a "social network". What's more, it provides no reliable sources for the assertions it does make (blog posts are not reliable sources).

I support removing all the text from this article and redirecting to Social network. Would anyone like to either argue why not, or improve the article so that it does demonstrate that "social graph" is a real term that has a meaning distinct from "social network"? SparsityProblem (talk) 20:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

There is no distinction even in the news article that the definition is linked to: "A term Facebook popularized to describe its social network, the social graph essentially refers to "the global mapping of everybody and how they're related.". The article should be merged with Social network and "social graph" should be mentioned in the intro as a term used by FB. -Pgan002 (talk)

Don't agree. Definition is a personal opinion.[edit]

Dunno who wrote the existing definition, but can't agree to it.

A social graph is how social networks are represented (and implemented). Period.

No fancy words needed such as binary spectra conception or what not.

This section must be re-written by an actual subject matter expert.

ceo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cenriqueortiz (talkcontribs) 18:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The contention that Mark Zuckerberg first used the term Social Graph is based on what?[edit]

Brad Fitzpatrick and Alex Iskold both used the expression "Social Graph" years before Mark Zuckerberg used it, and they were referring to the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atonal cinema (talkcontribs) 22:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

"Internet Company"[edit]

I just removed this, because it had to be the most redundant fact ever. If you're already linking to Google when mentioning them, it's ridiculous to then link 'the internet company' to an explanation because 1) you just linked to an article about Google, 2) everybody knows they're a company that works on services for the internet, and 3) "internet company" isn't even a single article.

So I trust this minor edit will stand. Quite frankly, this article still needs a LOT more work by some people who actually have the knowledge to speak on the purpose and commercial importance / viability of social graphs and their underlying concepts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaronshupp (talkcontribs) 05:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Comparison to sociograph[edit]

"A social graph is a sociogram which depicts all personal relations - typically not more than 100 per person."

I don't quite understand this line. Most people have more than 100 Facebook friends. And the line says "all".

85.97.63.65 (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Changed the undescriptive "graph" picture into facebook infobox[edit]

In the article, every ref is either to Facebook site, or a news item about Facebook. So it's more honest to as openly as possible let the reader know we're talking about Facebook here, not "social graphs" in any "scientific" sense. Here's Graph API https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/ which is all "social graph" in this article's sense is. And it's 100% Facebook. Please don't try to mask this as something with more general relevance. --Sigmundur (talk) 09:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I must have been missing on some Facebook conference talks, because somehow the re-defining of terms to fit the FB bubble world keeps annoying me, no matter how I try to straighten up this article. Some of stuff like "social areas of graph theory" is just non-sense. Graph theory is a discipline of mathematics, it has no "social areas" other than coffee rooms at the department (maybe you count restrooms too?). Get serious. This whole article should be renamed "Facebook Graph API" that it is about. --Sigmundur (talk) 09:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Merge with Facebook?[edit]

This article looks like it just doesn't stand on its own. It's only about Facebook, so why not merge there? --Sigmundur (talk) 08:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

A social graph really applies to any social network, especially online ones. It's not specific to Facebook, but Facebook's is by far the most well known, so it's featured a bit too prominently in this article. Gary King (talk · scripts) 17:30, 24 August 2012 (UTC)