Talk:South Coast derby

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I made a major overhaul to this article, as before my update the article included various grammatical errors as well as error in diction and syntax. It also had an issue with point of view, which I have since worked to rectify. I'll try and take the time to cite sources and continue to work to clarify portions of the article when I have the time Riskbreaker2987 06:25, 30 December 2006 (UTC)Riskbreaker2987[reply]

Scummers[edit]

Recently, someone claimed that Southampton fans refer to Portsmouth fans as 'scummers', just as Pompey fans call Saints fans, and changed the article to that effect. As a Southampton man myself, I've never heard of this - we call them 'Skates', they call us 'Scummers'. I've reverted the change - can people confirm that I'm correct to do so, or is there something about the South Coast Rivalry that I've completely misunderstood? Chris Larkin 17:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

i heard that back in the sixty's the Portsmouth naval base used to deposit scum into the solent and they had a team abbreviated as S.C.U.M.M.E.R.S who would clean up the scum from the waters, hence why southampton fans origionally started calling portsmouth fans scummers. Darren Thomas (southampton fan)
As a life-long Saints fan, I agree with you Chris. Portsmouth fans are "Skates" - never "Scummers". Daemonic Kangaroo 17:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC) (A Scummer and proud of it!)[reply]
- I was the one who originally wrote the "skate" portion and surrounding sections, and I completely concur. Thanks for the support. Riskbreaker2987 05:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Riskbreaker2987[reply]

I think this section is starting to get out of hand with explanations that are not referenced - making it nothing more than hearsay. I've no problem with saying what the nicknames are, but I do think we have to clamp down on these 'explanations' unless there is something to reference them with. Dan K (talk) 21:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames[edit]

Can anyone verify the thing about scum on the water? Seems like another retcon to me... Dan Kerins 11:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Economy[edit]

The article currently says "Some ascribe the growing rivalry since then to the cities' diverging economic fortunes, which included the transfer to Portsmouth of cross-Channel ferry services once based in Southampton." which makes it sound like Portsmouth is economically more successful than Southampton. The latest Gross Value added figures has Southampton producing £4.2 billion per year (£18,400 per person), Portsmouth producing £3.4 billion (£17,800). Granted this gap is less than in the early 90s but wouldn't that be converging economic fortunes? DM Andy 08:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Slow reaction from me, but you've made a good point. Anyone else have any other thoughts? As other bits of this article, this seems to be based upon rumour rather than fact. Dan K (talk) 22:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm In practice its uncleaer if there is any reason for the rivalry other than lack of alternatives.©Geni (talk) 07:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

South coast rivals.[edit]

I notice nothing here about Portsmouth parading the FA Cup round the Dell in 1939. So no rivalary then. Also during WW2 The Dell was bombed, and 'Home' games played at Fratton Park. Maybe worth a mention?. As regards scummers, and skates. I refer you the the song that starts 'When I was a little boy....... this song refers to Pompey Scum. I remember it being sung at The Dell in the late 60's. Not sure if this helps?Bettybutt (talk) 02:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]