Talk:Soviet War Memorial (Vienna)

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Hello, it was interesting for me to write this article and now I hope everyone will improve it and correct the mistakes I've no doubt made. Leidseplein (talk) 05:20, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I originally thought a picture for the infobox that was more of an overview of the whole site would be better. I tried several from Wikimedia Commons like this but they just kept displaying the red x instead of the picture when I tried to use them. I think the pictures used now are fine but if anyone can make more of an overview picture display correctly in the top box, like perhaps this one, go ahead and replace it if you think it looks better. Not a big deal.

Leidseplein (talk) 13:28, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

NPOV[edit]

Here is what the article is conveying to the reader in summary: "Soviet soldiers invaded Austria, which at the time was part of Nazi Germany, forced the Germans out of Vienna, raped our women and looted our country, and they had the nerve to build this memorial to their dead soldiers who fought against our Nazi rulers?!?!?! How dare they!!!"

Now, the fact is, we are not here to bash the Soviets or the Soviet war dead, who of course sacrificed a great deal to literally liberate Europe from the Nazi terror. That is a fact, of course, that cannot be denied by anyone. That minor detail aside, this article is about a statue. A memorial. It is not a platform for condemning alleged or real Soviet war crimes, or for denouncing the Soviet liberation of Vienna, or for promoting the idea that the statue should be destroyed so Austrian neo-Nazis stop trying to deface it (of course the local press in Vienna never want to admit the existence of neo-Nazis in Austria or even the Nazi past of Austria, but this is a different matter altogether), and so on.

These monuments used to exist in the middle of almost every city in the ex-eastern block countries. As a person from outside the western and eastern blocks even I feel disgusted by seeing these monuments built by oppressors of Eastern Europe to honor the "liberators". The most grotesque one is the one in Berlin just next to Brandenburg Tor and Reichstag. Articles about these statues should have a section regarding their controversy and how they were used as propaganda tools.

It is in need of NPOV. Laval (talk) 10:11, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Huh? I'm not under that impression at all, which passage are you referring to? --Michael Fleischhacker (talk) 14:24, 13 April 2012 (UTC)