Talk:Spanish Civil War

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Confusing Background[edit]

I found the Background section very confusing. It's hard to follow why the country fractured and which leaders and groups were on which side. Additionally, the section states that Niceto Alcalá-Zamora was the first prime minister of the Second Spanish Republic. A few sentences later, it says that Manuel Azaña was made Prime Minister, but when I click his name it says he was the first Prime Minister of the Second Spanish Republic. --Odie5533 (talk) 23:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Alcalá-Zamora was the first president of the republic. Azaña the first prime minister.89.150.132.108 (talk) 22:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
If that is so, then the article is wrong. The article currently states, "Niceto Alcalá-Zamora became the first prime minister." --Odie5533 (talk) 15:32, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Thomas (1961) supports that Zamora was the first Prime Minister: "A new government took over the ministries in Madrid with ease. The first Prime Minister of the republic was Niceto Alcalá Zamora, a barrister from Andalusia, with the flowery style of eloquence typical of that region." --Odie5533 (talk) 15:41, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Zamora was the first president and Azaña was the first prime minister according to The Battle For Spain By Atony Beevor (2006) (page 23) "On 14 April 1931 the revolutionary committee headed be Niceto Alcalá Zamora.. converted itself into the provisional government if the Republic. Alcalá Zamora then became president and head of state." then later on (page 28)"on 9 December the constitution was voted through. Niceto Alcalá Zamora was formally elected president of the Republic and on 15 December Azaña formed a new government". I've corrected this in the background section. User:Palinmicheal 4 June 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 14:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Date inconsistency[edit]

The article starts out "The Spanish Civil War was fought from 17 July 1936 to 1 April 1939...", but in the infobox it says "18 July 1936 – 28 March 1939". I looked at a few other articles in other languages, and they indicate 17 July 1936 to 1 April 1939 in their infoboxes. Feludnost (talk) 00:31, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Ukraine[edit]

Is similar, but not same. It is not preparation for World War 3. Desde1931 (talk) 01:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

thank you, and please[edit]

please ask in international public from Felipe Juan Pablo Alfonso de Todos los Santos de Borbón y de Grecia; born 30 January 1968: Was it good or bad that Spanish Civil War broke out? Desde1931 (talk) 00:42, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Art and Propoganda[edit]

I summarised the following information because Wikipedia is only a summary, but since it's interesting and referenced I thougt it best to reproduce it here in full:

Sculptors: • Alberto Sánchez Pérez - El pueblo español tiene un camino que conduce a una estrella maqueta ("The Spanish People Have a Path that Leads to a Star") was part of the 1937 International Exhibition in Paris. This 12.5m monolith constructed out of plaster combines surrealism with cactus-like natural forms. The surface of this sculpture is roughed and pockmarked, similar to the tilled land of rural Spain.[1] Alberto advocates for the strength of the common man, believing that movement forward will rely on elements found in the rural landscape.[2] A red star is protruding at the peak, to which the form is reaching, embodies a social utopia, a concept lost during this period of war.[2]

• Julio González - La Montserrat, which shares its title with a mountain near Barcelona, is created from a sheet of iron which has been hammered and welded to create a peasant mother carrying a small child in one arm and a sickle in the other.[3] The woman is placed on a wooden box, displaying a political undertone which many akin to Socialist Realism.[4] González's decision to work in iron was a purposeful antiwar statement, commenting that, “It is high time that this metal ceases to be a murderer and the simple instrument of an overly mechanical science. Today, the door is opened wide for this material to be – at last! – forged and hammered by the peaceful hands of artists." [4]

• Alexander Calder - Fuente de mercurio (Mercury Fountain), featured at the 1937 International Exhibition in Paris, was a protest work by the American against the Nationalist forced control of Almade'n and the mercury mines there. The fountain's body is constructed out of iron, with mercury flowing through the sculpture. Because of mercury's toxic nature, the fountain is now stored behind glass at the Fundació Miró, to which Calder gifted Fuente de mercurio as a symbol of his admiration and friendship of painter Joan Miró.[5][6]

Painters: • Pablo Picasso - Painted Guernica in 1937, taking inspiration from the April 27th's bombing of the village of Guernica. This three hour event, orchistrated by the Germans in support of Franco, killed 1600 civilians - consisting of mostly women and children.[7] Guernica, like many important Republican masterpieces, was featured at the 1937 International Exhibition in Paris. The work's size (11 ft by 25.6 ft) grabbed much attention and casted the horrors of the mounting Spanish civil unrest into a global spotlight.[8] The painting has since been herald as an anti-war work and a symbol of peace in the 20th century.[9]

• Joan Miró - El Segador (The Reaper), formally titled El campesino catalán en rebeldía (Catalan peasant in revolt), spans a magnificent 18 feet by 12 feet size.[10] This work features a peasant brandishing a sickle in the air, to which Miró commented that "The sickle is not a communist symbol. It is the reaper’s symbol, the tool of his work, and, when his freedom is threatened, his weapon."[9] This work, featured at the 1937 International Exhibition in Paris, was shipped back to the Spanish Republic's capital, situated in Valencia, following the Exhibition, yet it has since gone missing or has been destroyed.[10]

  1. ^ Museo Nacional Centro de Arte Reina Sofia, El pueblo español tiene un camino que conduce a una estrella (maqueta) (There Is a Way for the Spanish People That Leads to a Star [Maquette]).
  2. ^ a b Sociedad Benéfica de Historiadores Aficionados y Creadores, Artistas plásticos en la Guerra Civil española (Alberto Sánchez Pérez.
  3. ^ Museum of Modern Art.
  4. ^ a b Stedelijk Museum, Julio González Collection.
  5. ^ Four Wings at Fundació Miró.
  6. ^ Eugene Zhukovsky.
  7. ^ ...Bombing of Guernica.
  8. ^ Pablo Picasso.
  9. ^ a b SUNY Oneota, Picasso´s Guernica.
  10. ^ a b Stanley Meisler, For Joan Miro, Painting and Poetry Were the Same.

- Picasso Centers all over world under Monarchist Flag: Picasso, Great Artist of Our Monarchy - absurd Desde1931 (talk) 00:47, 31 August 2014 (UTC)