Talk:Spanish conquest of the Inca Empire
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Cleanup [edit]
I have broken this page off from Inca Empire. The original text on that page has been left intact until this article has been sufficiently expanded.
I deleted some excess text ("rim me"?) and aligned the quote to the left. It looks much classier now. :) -Rich
This article should be rewritten by a native English speaker. It is phrased very oddly in parts ("But the conqueror’s abuses made this fiction disappeared", etc).Gsd97jks 20:13, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I tried to clean it up, but may be not up to your standards. Anyway, in a linguistical point of view, it seems pretty accurate to me.InternetHero 02:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
rim me :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.47.34 (talk) 09:46, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Cleanup needed [edit]
paragraphs 4 and 5 under the rebellion (section 4) are redundant. They need to be consolidated, and some mention needs to be made of the Inca Victory at Ollantaytambo before the final retreat to vilcabamba. (I don't have enough info, though) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.89.184 (talk) 19:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
obsolete? [edit]
Is not this story considered obsolete spanish revisionist history? I thought it was fairly well known at this point that the spanish themselves did very little fighting and that most battles were native/native. Spanish allies verus inca. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.203.70 (talk) 04:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are correct. The article is based on the Spanish records which were largely propaganda. For example recent research has found that rather than the account in the article of capturing Atahualpa what actually occured was the Spanish arrived during an Inca celebration and found the Incas unarmed. They took advanatage and attacked. There is also the recent discovery of a transcript from a Spanish court case that has first hand indian accounts that indicate the Spanish fought in small groups surrounded by hundreds of Inca allies for protection. Spanish sources say the Inca army numbered in the tens of thousands but Indian sources say several thousands. There were never any battles as we know them but many scattered skirmishes against a greatly outnumbered Inca army trying to run away. A recent find of the bodies of Incas killed in the seige of Lima show that only around 3% have wounds consistant with metal weapons while the wounds of the rest matched stone clubs. Experts speculate that mention of the indian role in the conquest was avoided because the (non Inca) Indians were offered treaties for their help against the Incas that were never honoured. Wayne (talk) 03:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
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- This is only half-correct. The Spanish themselves did indeed do quite a lot of fighting (the Battle of Cajamarca) without native allies, and fought with only token native assistance against an absolutely incredible number of Indians again after Manco Inca Yupanqui fled to Vilcabamba and launched the famous Inca revolt. After the defeat of Manco Inca, the Spanish were then able to build a large Inca army to consolidate their control of Peru, but it is absolutely incorrect to say that the Spanish themselves did "very little fighting" (they did, however, do very little dying compared to their enemies). --Netparrot (talk) 06:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE [edit]
The presentation is exposed as in the name of religion have committed heinous crimes to justify only good intentions and struggles against the infidels. About 86'500, 000 people were killed during the conquest. A REAL HOLOCAUST
the truth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.232.99.194 (talk) 01:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
How did the spaniarsads conqer the inca king? [edit]
When the Spanish arrived at the borders of the Inca Empire in 1528, the empire spanned a considerable distance.[1] Extending southward from the Ancs Maya (meaning Blue River) which is now known as the Patia River in southern Colombia to the Maule River in Chile, and eastward from the Pacific Ocean to the edge of the Amazonian jungles, the empire covered some of the most mountainous terrain on earth. In less than a century the empire had grown in extent from about 155,000 sq mi/400,000 km2 in 1448, to 380,000 sq mi/980,000 km2 (or about the size of the eastern seaboard of the greatly varying cultures and geography, many areas of the empire were left under local leaders, who were watched and monitored by Inca officials. However, under the administrative mechanisms established by the Incas, all parts of the empire answered to, and were ultimately under the direct control of, the Emperor.[2] Scholars estimate that the population of the Inca Empire probably numbered over 16,000,000.[3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.200.210 (talk) 17:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Atahualpas Dead [edit]
this Article here says in this Section, that Atahualpa was killed on August 29, 1533. His own Article says, he died on July 25, the spanish Article says, July 26th, the german and the italian Article says also 26th July. Where does this 29th August came from? -- Hartmann Schedel Prost 21:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
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