Talk:Speech-language pathology

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More Information in Patients/Clients Section[edit]

Expand the introductory paragraph on the Patients/Clients section of this article.

Speech and language problems have a large effect on a person’s academic, social, and behavioral development. Speech and language therapists work with a wide range of patients, from babies to adults. When working with and diagnosing speech problems, physicians evaluate speech development benchmarks – such as how many words and which types of phrases are being used – to start effective treatment.

The need for Speech Pathologists is increasing in all settings. The number of children diagnosed with Autism has increased dramatically as well as the Baby Boomers generation that are admitted into nursing homes and hospitals. Universities all over has seen an evident change in the number of Speech Pathology majors over the recent years which results in an extremely competitive program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Briennafaust (talkcontribs) 02:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The source page should be: http://www.modernmedicine.com/modernmedicine/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=519967

I believe the article would be improved if it would include an explanation of why speech development is so important for the patients. In its current state, the article only lists who is affected. Inquisitive readers might question the value of speech development, which would be answered with this edit to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.190.187.4 (talk) 21:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I feel we should take care not to confuse speech with language and not to combine the two using the word "speech." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Speak Out16 (talkcontribs) 17:47, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Separate therapist/pathologist[edit]

I think there should be a separate speech therapist page. It is a profession and I think they are entitled to their own page. reference to this page should be made clear however, as they do practice speech and language pathology. Veterinary science has a separate veterinarian page, so I think speech pathologists should have one too. There are many pages linking to speech therapist, and when users click on it they want to know what one is, not what this type of health care focuses on Bouncingmolar 17:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed!
--Frogamigo 15:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

So can a UK qualified SLT practice in USA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.133.26 (talk) 13:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Only if they have a Master's and meet state/ASHA criteria in terms of number of hours worked in each area, etc. More details on the RCSLT/ASHA mutual agreement on ASHA's website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.182.158 (talk) 23:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

wrong, speech pathologist and speech therapist are the same thing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.149.239.158 (talk) 13:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

external lists[edit]

SLP1, removed some external links without reason. After reverting, SLP1 did it again saying the externals were not national. SLP1 forgot the "California Speech Language Hearing Lets talk about what to clean up. I have never seen 'national' used as a reason if good information exists. How about international? Anyway, let's 'discuss' changes. (I suspect the SLP1 is in California? and is part of CSLHA, and doesn't like one of the links removed?). Maybe a thorough revamping of the external list is in order, rather than selective removals. Larynxdude (talk) 12:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Larynxdude. Thanks for discussing here. I don't know if you know about the guidelines for external links here WP:EL? In short the links need to be kept to a minimum and need to be relevant and informative. You have reverted several spam links, links to commercial websites which are to be avoided according to WP:ELNO. [1],[2][3]
You have also reincluded two other websites including National Center for Voice and Speech's official website and Network for Speech and Language Therapists which do not on first glance to be in commercial in nature, but I am not clear that their inclusion is justified. Do these websites provide any more relevant or meaningful content than the hundreds of similar ones out there? Since we can't include the hundreds, why would we include these two? Note that per WP:V you need to justify their inclusion "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." I believe it is better to stick to links to national SLP associations: leaving California in was a mistake on my part, and I should point out that theorizing about my motives for leaving it in is contrary to Wikipedia's guidelines on assuming good faith and recommend you avoid these types of comment in future. In any case, a quick check of my userpage would show I live nowhere near California!! If you want these two links to be replace then feel free to state your case here. Slp1 (talk) 16:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi SLP1. I just thought it was interesting that you removed just a couple when there were many to remove; sorry for the California comment. So thank you for removing the bulk as many did not need to be there. I have re-added ncvs.org and added NIDCD. I think the www.ncvs.org one should be there as they have stuff that no one else has and send students/interns/residence there all of the time. Most of the hundreds of websites out there just copy their stuff from ASHA, NCVS, and NIDCD anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Larynxdude (talkcontribs) 00:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
See your talkpage but I disagree from multiple perspectives, including the fact that you seem to have a very US-centric viewpoint when this is a global encyclopedia. You also make some very broad accusations of plagiarism which need to be justified and proved. --Slp1 (talk) 00:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi SLP1. Yes, I am US-centric (I live in the US). So, on my last edit that you are commenting on, I put all the external links (many non-US organizations) in alphabetical order to draw attention to the US links. This is unlike just randomly trashing 3 external links before being called on it and leaving a California based one just above the three trashed? Sorry for my US-centric mindset... Larynxdude (talk) 15:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, thank you to all who edit this page, keeping it current and free from spam. SLP1, I understand wishing to keep the links short, but I wanted to mention a couple of sites for consideration. I believe these are two invaluable websites that provide a great deal of information for SLPs. One is Dr. Caroline Bowen's website (AUS), located at http://speech-language-therapy.com/, and the other is Dr. Judith Kuster's at http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster2/sptherapy.html (USA). I do not believe they would qualify as commercial in nature. I am the webmaster at Jennifer Taps' website, http://slpath.com, which I see was previously added and removed from this article. We have over 100 free downloadable resources for SLPs, but we do sell two documents on the site, so I can understand why our site violates your criteria. However, if you believe neither of the two websites I mentioned merit inclusion, I would ask you to clarify, as I believe they are not commercial and could provide a tremendous service to SLPs visiting this page. Thank you for your reply.

extraction of teeth and natural speech[edit]

I seek guidance to know whether extraction of teeth particularly from jaw impairs natural speech.

I have been observing that after exttraction of one teeth I do not have my natural speech and it is gradually deterioting. Prior to this incidence my pronounciation , speed its intensity was being appreciated by all but after extraction of one teeth I have lost that enjoyment of life.

Cn someone please guide me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.33.14 (talk) 11:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


Re: extraction of teeth

It could have an impact depending on which teeth were extracted. However you say one tooth... that alone would be very unlikely to affect speech. You also say speed and intensity are affected (I presume, although it's not clear) - that would definitely not be to tooth extraction directly, as intensity depends on your voice, not your teeth, and speed is more of a cognitive issue than a physical one related to teeth. It could be that the extraction psychologically affected you and you feel more self conscious now, and THAT might have an impact on speech and intensity, but not the tooth extraction directly.

Sorry for the formatting but I am not sure how to reply to notes.

A source of potential useful references[edit]

I have noticed the requests for more citations and references to support the content of this article. There are a few online research paper collections which may provide some of the supporting references required.

I hope these research paper collections of useful dolfrog (talk) 11:15, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Caution: note that these are personal selections of papers, mainly primary sources, which may have been picked to represent Dolfrog's view on the topic. WP:MEDRS guidelines are that medical articles should be sourced as far as possible from secondary sources such as review papers. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
CiteULike research paper groups share research papers and anyone can most groups and contribute the research papers from their own CiteULike research paper libraries. Gordonofcartoon seems to think I have some hidden agenda, which is not the case, I am just trying to provide the best information from international research sources to improve the understanding of many inter-related disabilities. dolfrog (talk) 14:17, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
OK, so what is the criterion for selection? How do you define "best information"? Gordonofcartoon (talk) 17:59, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Some of my own PubMed collections have been requested by various professionals to compliment their existing collections, some have been created to identify areas of overlap between various disabilities, some to identify differences between disabilities, and all are designed to provide the best information currently available online. All PubMed listing provide links to related research papers, and reviews. CiteULike is mainly used by research professionals to bookmark share research papers of common interest. What have you got against sharing current peer reviewed research information. dolfrog (talk) 00:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Smell[edit]

I am new to wikipedia but I think smell needs to be alluded to more in the top paragraph, please. Maybe anyway, if you professionals out there think so. 173.68.99.181 (talk) 13:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi and welcome! If you have reliable sources, you could write about smell in the article. However, I doubt that it should be in the top paragraph. The lead is used for a summary of the article. And by the way, none of us are professionals (at least not in the context of wikipedia), everybody is welcome to contribute. Lova Falk talk 06:21, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for my lack of formatting. As a practicing SLP I have amended the first line to "Human communication..." to be more specific. Yes smell is part of communication for some species, but it is not part of human communication and thus it is not relevant to an article on 'speech and language pathology'.

I also take issue with two comments in the article about S-LP courses being "demanding", notably "The graduate degree work to acquire a master's in Speech-Language Pathology is rigorous and demanding..." (US) and "The course is very demanding, and is assessed via coursework, exams and clinical placement" (UK). It may be to a majority of students, but this is still subjective and a biased statement with no possible reference to corroborate it so I removed both descriptions so as to be more objective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.248.25 (talk) 02:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


Clarity?[edit]

I don't get it. . . as in, I don't understand what is being said. Jargon and the like =/ 131.151.90.222 (talk) 06:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Dysphagia[edit]

A major part of the work of an SLP is in dysphagia evaluation and treatment. The article could be improved by adding some detail about this aspect of practice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Speak Out16 (talkcontribs) 17:50, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

CiteULike Group: Speech and Language Pathology[edit]

There is a CiteuLike Group "Speech and Language Pathology" which currently lists 415 research papers. CiteuLike is free to join, you can create your own research paper library and contribute papers from your own library to the various special interest groups. This might be a useful source of citations to improve the article dolfrog (talk) 04:31, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Correction[edit]

In the "Salary by State or District" section, salary information is listed for speech-language pathology assistants, and not speech-language pathologists. This information is misleading. According the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association, the annual median salary for a speech-language pathologist in 2013 is $75,000. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.185.219 (talk) 03:44, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

As the English wikipedia actually is an international wikipedia, I wonder if this section should even be here. What about salary in England, India or South-Africa?? Lova Falk talk 14:56, 27 October 2013 (UTC)