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- 1 Mote spoon
- 2 Sorry
- 3 The Tick
- 4 Use With Narcotics
- 5 Uninformative
- 6 Spooning?
- 7 Spork
- 8 Light Refraction in a spoon
- 9 Spooning
- 10 Religion section
- 11 Chinese spoons
- 12 Welsh spoons
- 13 Vandalism
- 14 Spoon fight/war
- 15 Bowl or Scoop
- 16 more hoax/vandalism?
- 17 SPOON JACKING
- 18 RE : SPOON JACKING
- 19 Manufacture
- 20 This article mentioned in the media
- 21 Spoon-meat
- 22 What's with the "300 hundred" times?
- 23 Edit request from 184.108.40.206, 11 January 2011
- 24 cutlery vs flatware
- 25 Etymology
- 26 Spoon Abuse
- 27 Spoon
- 28 Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2013
Hi the mote spoon has been placed into the eating utensil section for some reason but it is used to sieve the tea leaves and unblock the teapot spout which is a drink so thier is no eating involved with this type of spoon Davidbaggaley 09:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to sound pedantic, but we should not be referring to those who do not use modern technology as "primitive people". Tristan Davies (first ever use of edit in wikipedia, so apologies if I have broken any protocols!)--220.127.116.11 09:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone figure out a way to add to the article the fact that The Tick's battle cry was "Spoon!"? perhaps in a spoon in popular culture section?
Good idea, we can also add the famous line "There is no spoon" from The Matrix. 18.104.22.168 03:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Use With Narcotics
I think it bears mentioning in the 'usage' section that spoons are often used to hold drugs such as heroin when they are heated (cooked), or it should at least be mentioned that there is a perceived connection between narcotics and spoons 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
When was the first known use of a spoon? What led to the development of spoons as far as we can tell? What were the early attempts at spoon-like utensils?--Che y Marijuana 11:10, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
... I'm sorry, -combat- ?? Forks, sure.. knives? obviously.. but combat spoons??
"Obviously, the most widely used and well known use is for assistance in eating." why is it obvious, "The most..." might be more true.
Is it worth putting 'smooch/romantic' spoon and spooning uses in English? Alf 14:52, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"A combination utensil of spoon and fork, the spork, has become popular in the past couple of decades." I've never had one, don't know anyone who has (as far as I know), suggest replacing with "Since the 1940s a combination utensil of spoon and fork, the spork has been in use" A woon is a small wooden spoon commonly used for eating ice cream and "malts".Alf 15:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Now reads "As of the 1940s a combination utensil of spoon and fork, the spork has been in use", likewise a woon is a small wooden spoon commonly used for eating ice cream and "malts"."
I'm sure some people also call it, "the Foon".
Light Refraction in a spoon
Does any one here knows why on the front side of a spoon, any light refracted is upside down, and on the back, everything is rightside up?
- There is no spoon. Seriously though, the spoon being rounded inwards causes the light to be reflected inward, thus inverting the reflection, the reason the back of the spoon doesn't do that is because it is bowed in the opposite direction and reflects outwards, which still distorts the light, but does not invert it. --Killer Panda
A section has been added to the bit on "spooning" saying
Said to have been coined by King Arthur sometime in the late 5th to early 6th century and is mentioned in the series of Arthurian romance stories in Geoffrey of Monmouth's fictional Historia Regum Britanniae, a medieval equivalent of a bestseller that helped draw the attention of other writers, such as Robert Wace and Layamon, who then expanded on the tales of Arthur.
Now, I may be a complete and utter cynic, but I'll believe it when we have a cite for it. Average Earthman 12:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I strongly suspect that this section is a hoax. It is the only contribution that the author, User:Salisbury Man, has made to Wikipedia. I cannot verify anything in the article. The Gospel of Matthew has no mention of a silver spoon, and the idea that Saudi Arabia bans spoons is absurd. Look at the Hebrew names in the articles Oral Torah and Shulchan Aruch. These seem to be the names the author uses in the Jewish section, but his translations are very different. I'll wait a couple of days to see if anyone disagrees. If not, I'll delete the section. SDC 06:03, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have travelled widely in the Middle East and can say that some of what is in this section is true up to a point. Spoons are not banned in Saudi Arabia, but they are not in common usage and certainly are not available in public eating places – religious conformity is very rigid and the Sunni view of spoons would hardly need a law to enforce it. Families in Iran sometimes hang wooden spoons above the front doors of their homes, but only in rural areas prone to superstition, or particularly religious cities such as Qom and Isfahan. Only Karaite Jews use the pewter spoon during B'nai Mitzvah. I know nothing of about he silver spoon in the last supper. Rinka_Boy 20:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, maybe. What is "...the Sunni view of spoons..."?. This comment supporting bogus material is your first and only contribution to Wikipedia - interesting. --Snori 20:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with Snori. I'm beginning to think this looks like a big prank. Someone must provide some documentation for these claims. I tried Google and came up with nothing. How can we track IP address? I wouldn't be surprised if Rinka Boy's address is the same as the author of this material. SDC 21:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Most of the self-appointed guardians of Wikipedia travel no father than the computer in their bedroom/home office. Their idea of verification is to do a Google search! Indeed this would seem to be Wikipedia’s primary verification source. There does exist more than five millennia of received human wisdom out there, much of which is not recorded by the internet. It may be that some of the information contained in this article is off-centre, but the comments posted on this discussion page stem from people who are stultifyingly ignorant and are possessed of no-specialist knowledge. It seems that the people who make ‘corrections’ and delete other peoples work have an opinion on everything. I ask this question, just what sort of hyper-inadequate person has the time of day to write criticism about an article about spoons? Rinka_Boy 23:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Rinka Boy, giving you the benefit of the doubt, but Wikipedia by design needs references. Fair enough to not be able to find a 'net reference for a regional superstition, but if there's some "Sunni view of spoons", what is it, and quote a refernce.... or leave it out. True or not it doesn't belong here,
There's no discussion of Chinese spoons in the article. Chinese spoons are distinctively different than Western spoons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 22 August 2006
It's an odd article to attract so much vandalism, isn't it? Or maybe this is normal, and I've just been lucky in what I've seen so far. I don't spend much time on Wikipedia. Not at all.
(I must say, though, that one of the vandalism inserts was inspired. I enjoyed it, anyway. Wrong place for it, of course.
TRiG 01:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
There should be a section on spoon fights/wars, where players try to break each others' spoons with a flick of the back end of the spoon. --188.8.131.52 18:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
This is such a sick article. The description at the start is awesome. "Cereals, which cannot be easily lifted with a fork" HAHAHA classic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 04:36, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Bowl or Scoop
I've noticed that in the article it refers to the non-handle side of the spoon as a bowl, I would have considered it more the scoop side. Can we try to clarify who uses which term for the food side. It seems with the knife and the fork it is widely accepted to be the blade and the tines, but the end of the spoon is not as widely agreed upon. Pmi25 09:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
In early 2008 the first case of spoon jacking (where spoons appear in areas of highly concentrated knives) since the lingerian period was reported at the Sid James asylum, Manchester.
Panic was eventually quelled when a team of Hibbtologists working in the building were pleased to confirm that it was a naturally occuring phenomona actually counteracting the knife mania sweeping the place (upto fifteenknives recorded in a 1m squared area). Inmates reguraly hail the incident with emotionally charged outbursts of "WHO PUT SPOON ON'T JACKS?" the relief obvious in their voices. Furthermore to the incident Hibbtologists have urged the government into more study of spoon jacking as a possible deterrent to the knife crime epidemic sweeping the nation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
RE : SPOON JACKING
Re: Re SPOON JACKING:
I myself have been the victim of the heinous epidemic that is spoon jacking! No sooner than when my back was turned, my jacks had been well and truly spooned. The road to a complete recovery is certainly a never ending one. Please believe me eating soup with a fork is no gentle walk in the park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
In the Manufacture section, the terms fash and lynisher are used. I can find no definitions for these terms. Can someone knowledgeable about such things please either define these terms or replace them with terms that the average public might recognize? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
This article mentioned in the media
Re the removal of "spoon-meat" from the "spoon" article, as a term used for semi-solid or liquid food; please check the following citation:
"SPOON-MEAT Noun 1. Food that is, or must be, taken with a spoon; liquid food. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) Date "SPOON-MEAT" was first used in popular English literature: sometime before 1594. Spoon-Meat. Webster's Online Dictionary - with Multilingual Thesaurus Translation."
I restored the reference, preceded by "sometimes called". Anyway, thanks for your vigilance.
Fbarw (talk) 20:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
What's with the "300 hundred" times?
I notice some text in the article, "During the hand-forging process the spoon will have been hit with a hammer over 300 hundred times." Does anyone know what that means? A literal reading would mean 30,000 (300 times 100); one editor () took it to mean 300,000 ("300 thousand"). I don't see a source for it and it looks like it's been "300 hundred" for a long time (since 12 April 2007, with a period of time being split off into a separate article Handforging spoons). Any ideas? -- Why Not A Duck 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Edit request from 22.214.171.124, 11 January 2011
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Salvio Let's talk about it! 00:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
cutlery vs flatware
"sometimes called flatware in the United States" - I don't know about that but I do know that cutlery and flatware are interchangeable terms in the UK, being used by both the antiques trade and homeware shops (including department stores), and also by the general public. There is something of a class distinction, with flatware being perhaps a little snobby unless at auction. Flatware refers to any form of eating utensil and most food preparation ones, as district from hollowware, which is jugs, bowls, cups and the like. Though the distinction and terms originate in metal work, both are now used for those respective forms of ware no matter what the composition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marishka (talk • contribs) 13:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
I just deleted this sentence:
- The earliest northern European spoon would seem to have been a chip or splinter of wood; Greek references point to the early and natural use of shells, such as those that are still used by people in hunter-gatherer cultures.
Even though some of it is lifted verbatim from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, my main problem is that it conflicts with modern archaeology and linguistics. The etymology part (in the Britannica article) is OK up to a point, but needs to be clarified with additional sources. Zyxwv99 (talk) 14:40, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Since the 1970's it has also been common amongst many house holds for siblings to utilize metal spoons as a "weapon" against each other. Common uses involve banging the spoon on someone's forehead or putting into a hot liquid then placing the burning hot spoon on someone's skin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spoon190 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Other wise known as Christopher Benson from Faringdon, Oxfordshire; a spoon is an implement that symbolizes how stupid someone is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewBerry1999 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2013
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- Not done: Assuming you're referring to the first line of the article "a utensil", it's correct as written because the word utensil starts with a consonant sound. If you're referring to something else in the article, please be more specific. --ElHef (Meep?) 00:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)