Talk:Spy fiction

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Stretch[edit]

It's really a stretch to put the science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick's work in here by saying it concerns subterfuge. I have read all of Dick's work and there is nothing in it that is remotely connected with spy fiction in the conventional sense of the term. I think that this reference should be deleted.


I'm astonished there's no mention of Adam Hall's Quiller novels. They're an "anti-Bond" of another kind: where Bond is always in a tux & uses his real name (...), Quiller is always in the mud or on the run, & we don't even know his real name. And Hall's grasp of the tradecraft, IMHO, is exceptional.

I'd also mention a view from the other side, which we in the West almost never get: N G Smirnov's novel Diary of a Spy, featuring agent Edward Kent, notable as being the cryptonym adopted by a real GRU agent & mem thd Red Orchestra, Viktor Sukulov-Gurevich. Trekphiler 14:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

spy fiction vs spy-fi[edit]

Inconsistency: The spy fiction article implies that spy-fi is an abbreviation of spy fiction. The spy-fi article says that spy-fi is spy fiction + science fiction. Which is it? Quarl (talk) 2006-11-27 10:19Z

Techno-thrillers[edit]

Changed the section acknowledging Clancy as creator of techno-thrillers to Craig Thomas - his book Firefox was published in 1977, seven years before the Hunt for Red October. He's generally credited with inventing the sub-genre.

Waning of popularity?[edit]

The article states confidently that the popularity of spy fiction waned post-1989: I would like to see some evidence for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hudspith (talkcontribs) 16:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Video game section[edit]

The paragraph on video games reads like it was written by an 8 year old —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.65.121.24 (talk) 07:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Causality?[edit]

After the successful Russian Revolution (1917), the quality of spy fiction declined, because the Bolshevik enemy had won the Russian Civil War (1917–23); thus, the inter-war spy story usually concerns combating the Red Menace, which was then perceived as another "clash of civilizations".

I am dubious about the causality there. I haven't read widely enough to contest the assertion that the quality of spy fiction declined starting about 1917, but by what evidence or authority do we say that it was because of the Russian Revolution? --Jim Henry (talk) 12:57, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

WorldCat Genres[edit]

Hello, I'm working with OCLC, and we are algorithmically generating data about different Genres, like notable Authors, Book, Movies, Subjects, Characters and Places. We have determined that this Wikipedia page has a close affintity to our detected Genere of spy-stories. It might be useful to look at [1] for more information. Thanks. Maximilianklein (talk) 23:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)