Talk:Sredny Stog culture

Russia: History / Demographics & ethnography Mid‑importance

	Russia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the history of Russia task force.
	This article is supported by the demographics and ethnography of Russia task force.

Archaeology Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Archaeology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Archaeology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ArchaeologyWikipedia:WikiProject ArchaeologyTemplate:WikiProject ArchaeologyArchaeology articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Request to move[edit]

The name of this article is based on the false assumption that the Russian name is the conventional designation. There is no evidence of that and therefore I move that the article be moved to "Seredny Stih", as currently used in Ukrainian. Thanks, Horlo (talk) 11:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Object, There is no evidence that Ukainian version is most commonly used in English either, hence just leave it "as is" unless you have a positive evidence. `- 7 bubyon>t 07:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You! Though a false transcription of the THEN Russian find location, we should not translate traditional literature with every changing political borders. Nevertheless, in order to locate them, it is often advisable to add the actual name, and even coordinates, regarding the abundance of double names particularly in the former Soviet area.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:B097:A996:D994:3964 (talk) 14:59, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kurgan hypothesis[edit]

Thanks User:AnonMoos for putting the Sredny Stog culture back in the Kurgan hypothesis. As I understand it, the original version put PIE near the southern end of the Urals, and a little to the west, c 5500 BC. From there the Kurgan complex is said to have expanded throughout the Pontic-Caspian region. However, as more evidence came in the center of gravity seemed to shift to somewhere in the neighborhood of Kiev c 3700 BC, with Sredny Stog as a likely candidate for one of several cultures that merged into PIE-bearing culture (possibly early Cucuteni-Tripolye B). In any case, Sredny Stog is definitely a major player in the modified Kurgan hypothesis, especially the J P Mallory version. Zyxwv99 (talk) 15:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sredny Stog could have possibly been more "pre-proto-Indo-European" (or bordering on pre-proto-Indo-European) than proto-Indo-European as such, but it still has relevance for the problem of Indo-European origins... See "The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World" by David W. Anthony for recent theories AnonMoos (talk) 21:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not "Balkans"[edit]

Srednij Stog was NOT in "the Balkans" and consequently, the part "are distinguished from the other cultures found in the Balkans by the way they" had to be removed. Poor geographical knowledge!2A02:8108:9640:AC3:B097:A996:D994:3964 (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"at Alexandria, Ukraine" misleading[edit]

The "Aleksandriya" at the coordinates correctly given with 49.71, 37.58 after the original paper of the excavator, D.Ya Telegin (1959: 10) is NOT the Aleksandriya near the Dnipro, as the term "at" may suggest, but an isolated, now deserted farm at Kupryansk on the river Oskol south of Charkiv. Therefore, this farm Aleksandriya does not appear in any map, not even the Soviet 1:100 000. The name is misspelled in Mathieson, correctly by Anthony. HJJHolm (talk) 09:30, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Characteristics[edit]

Plesee read the whole chapter before adding double entries. Thank you.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:9422:31DF:2049:880F (talk) 06:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC) Further, Fortson is a fine linguist, however, no serious source for archaeological entries, which here, anyway, are rather confused.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:9422:31DF:2049:880F (talk) 07:05, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]