Talk:St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

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This page notes that St. Jude's is the only pediatric research facility that does not charge for care. Shriners Hospitals for Children is a network of 22 hospitals across North America which do not charge for care, and nearly all these hospitals conduct significant research. I think this citation should be changed to reflect that fact. Ewachspress 14:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Ewachspress is correct. The Shriners Hospitals and the Texas Scottish Rite (Masonic) Hospital for Children maintain similar policies. The Shriners Hospitals - unless there has been a recent change - do not, in fact, even accept insurance payments (private or governmental), seeking to assure that their medical care decisions will never be influenced by cost-benefit perceptions of third-party payors. Irish Melkite 12:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Apparently, this change was never made. I just did it.

68.104.173.148 (talk) 13:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Photo of St. Jude[edit]

The photo of St. Judes on this page is being claimed fair use. However the justification on the fair use tag being used states that the image is only fair use "in the absence of free images that could serve such a purpose". It should be a relatively easy task for a wikipedian in the Memphis area to go and get a photo of the hospital. JeremyA 00:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, it's not as easy as you think. The angle that photo was taken from indicates that it was taken from the top of a crane or other large structure. St. Jude is a massive complex, and it would difficult if not impossible (aside from renting some large machinery) to get a picture even remotely approaching the quality of the one currently in the article. - Jersyko·talk 00:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I believe the "other large structure" is a building that is located next to the Grizzly House (the short-term patient housing facility.) So I don't think it is that difficult to get that picture, although I don't know how accessible that particular building is. —Doug Bell talkcontrib 10:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Good point, though the angle won't be quite as good. In any event, a new picture could at least remedy the horrible resolution problem the current picture has. I don't know if the Grizzly House is accessible or not. - Jersyko·talk 13:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
        • The Grizzly House is not going to have an accessible location other than a patient room, but no matter, because the building I'm referring to would block the view. —Doug Bell talkcontrib 16:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

You don't need to get the exact same view for a replacement photo. Any photo that would serve the same purpose would do. If I still lived in Memphis I'd go and take one myself. JeremyA 23:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

If I lived in Memphis I'd go myself, but it's pretty far to go from San Diego.  :-) —Doug Bell talkcontrib 01:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Move[edit]

I would like to suggest moving this article to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital (Memphis) to meet the Naming conventions (places) standard. I am not entirely sure that this is necessary. However other hospitals in the state have names that are similar or the same to those in other states and need the parenthetical disambiguation to distinguish them. That leads to my main motive for asking about the move, do we have the article consistent with other hospital articles in the state and elsewhere? Or do we leave it as is because it is such a widely known place? Input please, anyone. Thanks
~User:Dan9186 1 November, 2007 01:12 (UTC)

No one protested and a minimum of 5 days was given so I went ahead and performed the move. If it needs to be reverted check the redirects because I updated them as well.
~User:Dan9186 7 November, 2007 05:15 (UTC)
I've moved the article to "St. Jude Children's Research Hospital" per Wikipedia:NCGN#Disambiguation. There is no need for disambiguation since there is no other hospital that goes by this same name. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  05:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising[edit]

St. Jude's Children's Research Center is using questionable practices in fund-raising. There is something called the "Mathathon" where children (as young as 6) are shown heart-rending videos of children with cancer and are encouraged to go out into the community and solicit pledges for doing math problems. This fund-raising is done with some very slick materials, to say nothing of the videos. I find it difficult to believe that Marlo Thomas actually knows about this.

Research shows that 23% of donations is spent on fund-raising. The Better Business Bureau allows up to 35%, which I consider egregious. .Kdewittjr 23:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

This talk page is not meant for discussion of the article's subject, but rather for discussion of the article itself. Do you have any specific suggestions regarding how to change this article? · jersyko talk 00:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. If wish to add conflicting information please contribute in proper context with the article. LostLucidity (talk) 01:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Kdewittjr, Who are you to deem their fundraising practices "questionable" and "egregious"? That's just your opinion. And you have no idea of what Marlo Thomas knows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherrysunburst (talkcontribs) 20:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC) P.S and your self-righteous statement that you "limit donations to organizations that spend well under 20% of donations on fund-raising" is completely irrelevant to the content of the article. In fact, all of your comments are pointless and irrelevant.

Added information[edit]

This is my first time on this site, so please forgive me if I seem forward. I was reading the artical, which was very well written, and I wasn't sure if you were aware or not that Kay Jewelers isn't the only one of the Sterling Jewelers Inc. companies that contribute to St. Jude's. There are 12 stores under the Sterling name: Kay Jewelers, JB Robinson Jewelers, Jared, The Galleria of Jewelry, Osterman Jewelers, Shaw's Jewelers, Goodman Jewelers, Weisfield Jewelers, LeRoy's Jewelers, Rogers Jewelers,Friedlanders Jewelers, Belden Jewelers and Marks and Morgan Jewelers. We all sell plush stuffed animals every year, with 100% of proceeds going to St. Jude's. Princessann83 (talk) 02:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)CM

sourcing & objectivity[edit]

This article could benefit from additional sourcing and objectivity. For example, the section captioned "The Hospital" makes impressive claims but provides no sources at all. Reliably sourced information on outcomes and costs would help a lot. Alas this information can be difficult to find for any hospital, although it should be published for all hospitals.TVC 15 (talk) 19:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

You're basically correct. The information in the article (and in that section) happens to be true, however it should be sourced better, as 4 of the 7 refs are a primary source. If anybody finds references to this information, I encourage adding them. To this end, I've added the primarysources tag to the article. -- Otto (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Figure Updates and More General Information[edit]

While looking through this page, I noticed that many of the figures presented were outdated. Therefore, I updated many of these numbers to reflect St. Jude currently rather than its statistics numerous years ago. Examples of this are its operating cost and percentage of every dollar donated that is applied directly to St. Jude's research and treatment. I also saw it necessary to provide more information about how the idea of founding the hospital was created, its mission, and the awards and achievements of both St. Jude and its staff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khimmelberg (talkcontribs) 00:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

See Talk:Thanks and Giving - the part of that article covering the Thanks and Giving program is somewhat short (two paragraphs), and the rest of the article is about the hospital and a list of corporate partners (which should probably be cut down). I'd like to propose redirecting that article to this one and integrating this information into the "Funding" section of that article, which already includes some details about the Thanks and Giving program. This seems like a reasonably uncontroversial merge, but I figure there's no harm in checking for other opinions before I go ahead and do it. Dreamyshade (talk) 08:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Philanthropic Aid citations and updates[edit]

I fixed the missing citations in the Philanthropic Aid section and updated the statistics from Epsilon Sigma Alpha International and the Dream Home Giveaway to current numbers. It also appears that in some cases the text in this section directly matches text on the source pages, but I didn't make any of those types of changes.

(Apologies for making so many separate updates. I'd make a change and *then* notice yet another missing citation or wikicode error, but I wasn't using the preview function properly at the time.) Metheglyn (talk) 01:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)