Talk:St. Martin's Day
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The information on Gaudete Sunday is very interesting. Some clarification is needed though. The preceding line states that Sundays did not count toward the forty day pre-Nativity / post-Martin fast. It is then obvious that Gaudete Sunday, itself being a Sunday, did not count toward the total of those forty fasting days. I suggest clarification on why Gaudete Sunday is specifically mentioned. For example: that it was an especially festive Sunday in the past, or that that it was considered a break in the fast, or that its name and the rose colored altar clothes signify joy, etc., etc.
Dutch Saint Nicholas celebration
I changed the Dutch celebration of Sintaklaas from Dec 6 to Dec 5 because this is when we celebrate it.
Quarter Days (UK)
This page states that Martinmas is a quarter day in England, Wales and Ireland, but the linked page does not agree - it says Martinmas is only a quarter day in Scotland. Who's right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 16:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- The quarter day page is right. It was a Scottish term day and may also have been used for this purpose in some or all of the north of England. Itsmejudith (talk) 14:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Whilst the truce on the Western Front (11.00hrs on 11/11/1918) fell on St Martin's Day I do not know of any evidence that the coincidence was anything other than chance. Accounts say that negotiations had been proceeding for some time and agreement was reached as soon as political circumstances (especially in Germany) permitted - see Armistice with Germany. 11.00 was chosen for it to come into effect because six hours was considered the minimum time needed to convey the news to fighting units on both sides. Unless somebody can point to good evidence to the contrary I suggest that any suggestion that it was deliberately timed for St Martin's Day should be removed. AJHingston (talk) 13:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think it should go. I've never heard anyone making the claim that Armistace Day has anything to do with the feast of St Martin.
protestant remembrance of Martin Luther on Nov 10th vs. catholic St Martins on Nov 11th
a) "In some regions of Germany (e.g. Rhineland or Bergisches Land) in a separate procession the children also go from house to house with their lanterns, sing songs and get candy in return."
At least for the Bergisches Land this is the protestant tradition 'Martinisingen' or 'Mätensingen' with respect to Martin Luther and not about St. Martins. So that should be corrected if no one opposes.