I haven't been able to find a clear definition of what a standard is, but ISO certainly produces standards. On the other hand, W3C only produces recommendations, which may be submitted to standards bodies. W3C never claims to produce standards! The reason may be that W3C is a consortium - but I guess you need a lawyer to tell the difference. Yaronf 22:54 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
- (Better late than never?) Since this article is linked from ones such as Internet Explorer, I have gone ahead and added a paragraph to clarify that the standards that govern the Internet tend to be de facto, and that the W3C and IETF, among others, intentionally call their publications by names other than "standard" so as not to conflict with ISO, IEC, etc. - mjb 03:55, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- A separate page on standard (technical) has been added to clarify this. Rlsheehan (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
To me, standards are just an attempt to organize things. Maybe I'm using the wrong word, but ultimelly I've always seem standardization as a way to set rules for better organizing anything by grouping into categories and trying to make it clear and common.
For example cable standards (RCA, etc), TV standards (Pal-M, NTSC), internet standards (HTTP) all fit in that description.
Anyway, maybe I'm thinking in one concept and using the wrong word, but I still couldn't find a better (english) word for it. Also haven't looked too deep yet... :P
I'm quite surprised to see some articles in wikipedia where it goes way too technical in one field instead of the generic aspect view of it. I'd say this is one.
--Cacumer 19:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Anyone? - FrancisTyers 23:34, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- Natural language standardisation: no specific standard. It "emerges from culture" and are compiled/consolidated into well-acepted Grammars, Dictionaries (ortography tradictions and/or country-level standards), and Style guides, and perhaps a little of "country-oficial normative principles". Very very rare (remember only Esperanto) start a natural language with a standard, and to fix a unique "oficial reference standard".
- Formal language standardisation: like any other standard, need a Standards organization to fix it.
- -- 5 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 10:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
Definition of de facto and de jure
I found the definition of de facto and de jure with regards to Standardisation that is given in this page to be at odds with a number of other sources. The impression given here is that de jure standards are ones that are used due to legal contract, whereas in other places (for example in a paper by Erik Duval entitled "Learning Technology Standardization: Making Sense of it all" ) de jure standards are those that are created by entities such as ISO and may or may not have mandated use associated with them. Duval also lists Microsoft Office as a de facto standard, illustrative of the issue that things that we sometimes call "standard" are often not necessarily "bringing benefits without hurting competition". This point might more correctly be associated with "Open standardisation". --JBrusey 23:33, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I've never heard of the term s13n. Can anyone add into this article how the term s13n came about, and why it means standardization?
I agree 188.8.131.52 20:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
OK! Please Clean it! -- Krauss 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I would be willing to clean up the definition of "technical standardization" and also clean up the definition of "technical standard." The former would be a major change as much that is discussed under standardization seems to belong under standards. However, I cannot contribute to the other non-technical uses of the terms standardization and standards. So if this task can be parsed, I am qualified to address a part of it. For my qualification please see http://www.csrstds.com/klist.html
Krechmer 21:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- The first sentence is pretty ironic as well: "Standardization (or standardisation) is [...]" I wish the UK/US spelling differences didn't exist. --184.108.40.206 (talk) 12:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The irony was certainly not lost on me... 220.127.116.11 03:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Merge with Standard or Standards organization
Please vote and justify:
Merge with the Standards organization article
Merge with the Standard article
- Readers will not want to read separate articles about standards, the standardization process and an overview of standards organizations. The information in these articles is of an introductory and overview nature and splitting it up does not help the reader. Combining it does not produce an overly long article. All of this should be merged into one Standard (technical) article (Standard should be the disambiguation page). Other articles can get into the details of individual standards and standards bodies. --Kvng (talk) 02:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- The article on technical standards should remain basically as is. the standards organization article is OK. Not all "standardization" happens via a standards organization so perhaps it could remain. I therefore suggest not merging. However, there is much redundancy among the articles which needs to be cleaned up. Rlsheehan (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
How are they kept updated? Bring out difference between ‘artifact’ and ‘quantum’ standards with a suitable example.
When ISO is developing Standards, why does each country have its own body to make standards. (They can straightway adopt ISO standards and save on time and money.) Explain. Give two such examples of our country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 09:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Am I the only person who thinks that this article doesn't really cite any references for stated 'facts' even when it is written asif a direct quote from something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chad.wilko (talk • contribs) 09:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Commonly used standards
In the various articles related to standardization and technical standards I failed to see any mention of even the most basic standards, like those kept by national bureaus for weight and measures. Also missing are the most basic electrical standards (voltages, frequencies) and standard screw sizes.
I would like to add some information on the historical development of standards and the role of machine tool builders, but see no place that this fits into anything written here.Phmoreno (talk) 01:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)