Talk:Stanley Armour Dunham

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Obscure relatives[edit]

I removed the obscure relatives. A couple of hundred years back, "most" people of a given country would be related in some way or another, such relationships are ridiculous to mention even before his parents. They have hardly anything to do with him, I doubt very much that Stanley Dunham knew he was "related" to Winston Churchill. Nartawed (talk) 21:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Is this guy notable at all?[edit]

Is this guy notable at all? He was surely not considered notable in his lifetime. Are all ancestors of Barack Obama notable? If I want to write an article on the grandpa of Hillary Clinton, would that be okay as well? How about the grandpa of Bill Clinton ("William Jefferson Blythe, Sr., a poor farmer in Sherman, Texas")? I believe this article should perhaps be merged into Family of Barack Obama Nartawed (talk) 22:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

No he is not notable, it's just a part of these redicoulus American "feelgood-hypes", in which persons who do some good thing is elevated to "god-statuses", and every little detail is just soo amazing and just have to be covered for others to experience. This time as a part of the amazing president Barack Obama. (I'm not ignorant or/and have political agendas, I both like Obama and I am very interested in genealogy, it just doesn't have anything to do here. It rather fits, yeah it isn't a joke, here at Obama Wikia) Gabagool (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your rather insulting analysis of Americans, Gabagool. I assume you have spoken out in a similar manner regarding the "feel good types" from your country who apparently find Emma Tallulah Behn, the 5-month old third daughter of Princess Märtha Louise of Norway and husband Ari Behn who is 7th in line for the Norwegian throne, notable enough for an article? (As a point of fact to both you and Nartawed, there were those among us - like me - who argued to keep Madelyn and Stanley Dunham in one article as we had it previously, but consensus went this way.) Tvoz/talk 22:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry if I offended anyone but I still stand by what I wrote earlier. The comparing with Emma Tallulah Behn is also wrong as persons of nobility and/or royalty are actually "public" persons no matter what happens. She is a person that will always be known and recognized nationally/internationally (if she wants it or not). Barack Obama's grandfather on the other hand is just as recognizable as I am, and most of the world's population. If my grandson becomes famous in some way, it does not make me more notebale than before. So, coming back to my last comment about hypes - if it wasn't for this great hype about Obama right now, no one wouldn't even care enough to write an article about his grandfather. If someone nevertheless should be interested in it, that someone should go buy Obama's book or something instead. It just dosn't fit here, nor does it meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Gabagool (talk) 01:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Filling in 5-year gap in Stanley Dunham's biography[edit]

My edit of Feb. 12 is meant to fill in the gap in the biography of Stanley Armour Dunham, for the years 1955-60, when he and Madelyn lived in Seattle and Mercer Island, Washington. The only source I've listed is the article, "Stanley Ann Dunham, mother of Barack Obama, graduates from Mercer Island High School in June 1960," of Feb. 7, 2009. There are a number of other sources for these basic facts about Stanley, which could also be added to the HistoryLink reference.

Canopus44 (talk) 17:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Reference to discrimination against "minority white population"[edit]

This assertion should be documented or removed. I'm not aware that the banking industry in Hawaii in the 1960s was the source of anti-Anglo-American discrimination.

Read old discussion at Talk:Madelyn_and_Stanley_Dunham[edit]

Please read over the Talk:Madelyn_and_Stanley_Dunham separation discussion if you would like to know why the consensus was to separate Stanley and Madelyn in the first place. There seems to have been a lot of back and forth in the past, but I doubt anyone will ever re-merge the two back into the old composite article ever again since Obama is now President.AdRem (talk) 18:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


If anyone is so inclined, a photo of Stanley would greatly improve the article's presentation. There are a number of good ones already available in the commons, but I don't know the correct way to crop using existing Commons photos. Alternatively, perhaps someone could upload a new photo to the Commons through the proper methods.AdRem (talk) 18:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Death Section makese NO sense[edit]

The death section reads,

Stanley Dunham died in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1992 and is buried there in the Punchbowl National Cemetery. Madelyn Dunham took care of her daughter in Hawaii in the months before Ann died in 1995 at age 52.[13] Her last interview was in 2004, on the occasion of her grandson's keynote address to the 2004 Democratic National Convention.[14][15]

Which makes NO sense since the person in question is male! It makes one even wonder if this man really died in 1992! C'mon Wikipedia, get your facts right! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I have changed that. That only took a year to do. The wife's speech belongs in her article where it probable is.--Threeafterthree (talk) 02:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Apollo missions?[edit]

The article quotes Barack Obama in his book Dreams From My Father saying "One of my earliest memories is of sitting on my grandfather's shoulders as the astronauts from one of the Apollo missions arrived at Hickam Air Force Base after a successful splashdown."

The earliest manned Apollo mission that flew and achieved splashdown was Apollo 7, which splashed down October 22, 1968, when Barack Obama was seven years old, yet this is one of his "earliest memories"? (In fact, Apollo 7 landed in the Atlantic near Bermuda. The earliest manned Apollo splashdown in the Pacific was Apollo 8, which landed December 27, 1968.)

Surely he's thinking of the earlier Gemini missions? Most peoples' "earliest memories" occur well before the age of seven.

I realize that the passage was a quotation from a book, but I think some note should be made of the inconsistency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdpittman (talkcontribs) 17:18, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Not clear[edit]

It is not clear when Stanley Armour Dunham moved to Hawaii. I have seen 1959 and 1960 mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:27, 1 July 2013 (UTC)