Talk:Stardust Resort and Casino

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Japan section reads as though it was written by the gambling industry - quotes of 160% returns are 'citation needed'.

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Opening comment[edit]

I moved this page from Stardust (resort) to Stardust Resort & Casino because the latter appears to be an official name, at least according to the website, and we always prefer an official name over a disambiguated form. Nohat 07:44, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Echelon Place[edit]

I moved Echelon Place section to its own page. I believe this is the best option as more information comes availble the article will expand dramatically. --Ben 17:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

I know this history pretty well. I think it would be appropriate to mention that the Stardust had a different name under Tony Carnero (before it opened), and that Carnero was killed for missing payroll when his accountant, Fred Grange, died of cancer in 1954. Grange was also Carnero's left-brain during all the SS Rex days... --Mrcolj 21:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It'd be great to have an article on Carnero, if we can find any sources. The SS Rex matter is covered briefly in History of Santa Monica, California#1930s. -Will Beback 02:22, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mob Links section should be added[edit]

Story today from ABC7 Chicago, links to the Chicago mob through Kansas City.

1983, Nevada authorities uncovered the scheme and traced its roots back to the infamous leaders of the Chicago syndicate: Joey "The Clown" Lombardo, Jackie "The Lackey" Cerone, Angelo "The Hook" Lapietra and Joseph "Joey Doves" Aiuppa. They were among nine mafia-anointed from Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland and Kansas City, who were convicted in 1985 of skimming millions of dollars from the stardust. All were sentenced to long prison sentences.

There was more info on the television story than is contained on the internet version..Kidsheaven 23:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=investigative&id=5115444

Singage and lights?[edit]

I think there's a little too much discussion of the sinage and lights....most of the article describes the various versions over the years which has little to do with what the hotel/casion was or was about. It's also written more like a marketing ad than an encylopedia.

Skimming[edit]

I added a link to Tax avoidance and tax evasion for the 1984 allegations of skimming. I'm not sure if it's the best fit, so anyone who wants to link elsewhere (say, Embezzlement) is welcome.

--KNHaw ^(talk) 00:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar?[edit]

I'm quite tired and it's late on in the night, but I had to re-read the following lines a couple of times..

"At the time of its closing, The Stardust Showroom starred The Magic of Rick Thomas, the most successful daytime show in Las Vegas history."

"It can be seen in the movie Mars Attacks where it is damaged by the martians."

Sorry to be bitchy, but for someone reading about the Stardust for the very first time, this article is hard to read.

Tommyhaych 23:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mob casinos[edit]

From all mob casinos the only left are Tropicana from Frank Costello and Flamingo.And I'm asking why the fuck they had to destroy Stardust it was awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles Luciano (talk • contribs) 19:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

asbestos[edit]

when i used to work there there were always rumors that asbestos was in the contruction and getting into the air. can anyone confirm or deny this, with some valid references, and put it into the article? if it had asbestos in the casino , then its good that they imploded it , but the tower was much newer than the casino itself and im certain it didn't have asbestos.THUS they just blew up a perfectly good and expensive higbrise that could have stayed open, or become part of echelon place, if it ever even gets built. The point is, the article should talk about tbe type of building materials used in the original construction, and maybe discuss all the renovations it had over the years as well (that possibly were done to try to remove some of the asbestos). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.131.17 (talk) 07:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Largest[edit]

Should not the opening date (1958) and the fact that it was, at the time, the largest casino in Nevada and the largest hotel in the world (holding approximately 1,000 rooms) be in the lead? Isn't that an essential part of its notability? --Bejnar (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Gaming" vs. "Gambling" in the text[edit]

The usages of the euphemistic "gaming" far outnumber those of "gambling." Does that suggest a NPOV problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.178.22 (talk) 16:14, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But why did it close?[edit]

This article doesn't seem to explain what lead to its demise and why it closed, it just says it closed. Theofficeprankster (talk) 00:28, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]