Talk:Steve Yzerman

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2006[edit]

Someone have a good picture of Steve? The man deserves to have a picture!

Why is the information about Steve's family constantly being deleted?

Kittens, nephews and nieces are hardly notable. ccwaters 15:23, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
maybe not notable, but not unimportant.  I know for a fact that they don't have a little kitten friend named tubby.
Explain the encyclopedic value of that information. ccwaters 22:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

General Background informatin on the person, the same kind of information that would be seen in a biography. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.183.219.243 (talkcontribs) .

You might want to read Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. There are two important issues: verifiability -- what are your sources? The second issue is that discussing relatives when they aren't essential to the article intrudes on the privacy of non-public figures. If you don't see the issue with this re-read Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. There are other problems. For example, the kitten will be a cat very soon; who will keep such trivialities current? --Straif 01:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


OK, the fact that he has nieces and nephews and kittens is irrelevant. But I find the information about his wife and 3 children highly relevant. In fact, I looked up his biography specifically to find information about Lisa and his 3 daughters, as I am always curious about athletes' life outside of the playing arena. Why is this being deleted? As a professional athlete, he is a public figure just like a politician or actor is a public figure. The assertion that he is a non-public figure is wrong. Please direct me to somewhere which says an athlete is not a public figure. --Wingnut 18:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

It's Cool![edit]

Alakazam here! I'm just gonna add Yzerman's stats from databasehockey.com and hockeydb.com. Both sites have stats on past and present hockey players. Just 2 let U guys know!

Retire, Yzerman Team Canada sweater?[edit]

I thought, Yzerman's number "retirement" was just for this team 2006 Winter Olympics Men's hockey team. GoodDay 19:39, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Minor is/was issue[edit]

I changed 'was a hockey' to 'is a retired hockey. 'Was' makes it look like he is dead, Hdw 19:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

(sighs)[edit]

Yeah, yeah, I know, this has nothing to do with the article, but Yzerman was one of the great class acts in hockey history. I predicted in the late nineties that he'd retire as the greatest player never to win an award or an All-Star accolade, whereupon he promptly went out to do both. This Bostonian salutes you, Steve; you were a pro's pro, and hockey's a poorer sport today without you in a red and white sweater. Ravenswing 21:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, I have to say something. As a native Detroiter, I'm sad to see Steve Yzerman retire, but I think we all knew it was coming sooner or later. Thank you for all the wonderful memories, and I wish you a pleasant and restful retirement. The hockey world will miss you! Avalyn 00:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
You know I always found him and Joe Sakic to be alike in so many different ways, their similiarites outweigh their differences. Yzerman was the only one of those great players who had careers stretching from the early 80's until well into this decade. It is the end of an era in the NHL, very fitting because it is now a completely different (I'd say better) game than it was when I first started paying attention to hockey as a kid ten years ago. Now all the superstars from back then are almost gone. Messier, Francis, Yzerman, Lemieux, Hull, Robitaille, Andreychuk, MacInnis, Damphousse, (more or less Hasek and Belfour), all retired in the last two years. They were all legends, but now we finally have a great new era of young superstars, Staal, Ovechkin, Crosby, Phaneuf, Lundqvist, Cheechoo, Thornton, Richards, Lecavalier, Marleau, Gagne, Heatley, Kovalchuk, Spezza, Gionta, Gomez, Jokinen, Pitkanen, Bouwmeester, Hemsky, Nash, Bergeron, Afinogenov.... I could go on all day. We should cherish the next 15 years with these guys, cuz they'll fly by like Yzerman's career. Number One Yzerman memory was his 96 OT Goal to eliminate the Blues. Also amazing he played his whole spectacular career with the Red Wings. Croat Canuck Go Jays Go 02:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
As a kid I always idolized Stevie, despite the fact that I was never a big Red Wings fan. I wanted him to play one more season to maybe climb up the all-time scorer's list by a few spots, maybe pass Francis for 4th, but part of me knew he'd retire. He will be dearly missed in the hockey world. CptUnconscious 14:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Yzerman' retirement creates a Red Wings situation (not seen since 1986). Who'll be the next RW captain? We'll have to wait and see. GoodDay 14:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Lidas, Drapes or Z, or none, with the three mentioned as A Hdw 17:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Faceoff[edit]

I won't presume to change the page myself, as I'm not entirely sure of the stats or other such "proof". But should there be something about his proficiency at faceoffs. Up until the his retirement, he continued to win faceoffs over much younger players. Theaterdude88 03:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Captain America[edit]

I deleted this: "nationality_2 = United States". If he's born in Canada, he's Canadian. Trekphiler Canada 14:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC) (Of course, maybe I'm biased.)

On May 9, 2001, both Steve Yzerman and his wife Lisa took oathes of U.S. Citizenship at Bloomfield Hills Middle School in Bloomfield Hills, MI. All three of their children are U.S. citizens as well. In the eyes of the Canadian Government, they may both continue to be Canadian citizens. But regardless of personal bias, both Steve and Lisa are naturalized U.S. citizens.

  • So why isn't this information in the body of the article? It would certainly end the ridiculous edit war that seems to be going on about this issue. 69.7.203.153 (talk) 23:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
  • The flag should be removed. It's an infobox for a hockey player and from a hockey standpoint he has no connection to the USA.--Львівське (talk) 06:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Detroit 500[edit]

I noticed a mention of when he hit 600, but not 500. Howcum? I'd say 500 is the biggie. (And Patrick Roy gave up Y's 500h...) Trekphiler Canada 14:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Tsakmakas[edit]

I removed the name "Tsakmakas" from Steve's full name at the top of the entry since there is no verifiable source to indicate that it's actually part of his full given name. AuntieNancy19 01:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Whomever keeps adding "Tsakmakas" to Steve's name, please stop it. There is NO proof that this is part of his name. AuntieNancy19 05:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding Tsakmakas to Steve's name - again, it cannot be verified as part of his name. If you have a source that indicates Tsakmakas is part of Steve's name, please post a link to it. Otherwise, STOP undoing my edits. AuntieNancy19 19:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Nickname[edit]

Per WP:HOCKEY's decision to remove the nickname field from the infobox, it is being moved here for use later. "| nickname = The Captain
Stevie Y
Stevie Wonder
" -Djsasso (talk) 21:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Punched By Fan?[edit]

Should It Be Noted? [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by KingRaven44 (talkcontribs) 19:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Jewish?[edit]

I was reading a discussion forum and a supposed cousin of his posted his drivers license and family history to prove that both him and Steve Yzerman are Dutch Jews. Is there any verifiable sources for this?

Olympic jersey retirement[edit]

I have re-added the Olympic jersey retirement into the "Awards and achievements" section and moved up a reference from "International statistics". Yes, Joe Thornton wore #19 at the 2010 Olympics so a note was added to indicate that. Unfortunately, the ref link http://tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/story/?id=146949 is now dead, so still searching for more info. Unclear if the retirement announced by Wayne Gretzky was just for the 2006 Olympics, or all time. — MrDolomite • Talk 16:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Note left at Talk:Canada_men's_national_ice_hockey_team#Yzerman_jersey_retirement for common discussion area. — MrDolomite • Talk 16:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The fact that Thornton wore #19 in 2010 is a pretty clear indication that his number was not retired. I seem to recall Gretzky making the announcement, but I don't know that it was anything endorsed by Hockey Canada, or just Gretzky saying no one was going to wear it in 2006. I would remove the info until it can be verified, rather than adding it and seeking verification. Canada Hky (talk) 17:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


Removal of GM Record[edit]

Leech44, you said in your edit that there was a discussion about not having GM records in your notes on your edit (which you marked as minor) however you yourself said you could not find said discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey/Archive60#General_Manager_Records If you found the original discussion that you thought existed, then I would request a link to it. If that is the discussion that you are referring to, then the consensus (across 5 people and 2 days) was that "not many sites track it". Charwinger21 (talk) 20:09, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to re-initiate the discussion at the hockey project. --Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 19:32, 28 May 2014 (UTC)