Talk:Stockport Grammar School

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Lists of names[edit]

Lists of names in this article should be sourced in accordance with WP:BLP. As there is no way of constantly maintaining linked articles, this applies to names which have a Wikipedia article as well as those that do not. Any name listed with no verifiable citations should be removed. Refer to WP:NLIST for guidance. (talk) 07:18, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Deviation from Wikipedia policies.[edit]

Though the article reads well- there appear to be significant problems in sticking to Wikipedia's policies.

for instance the lead section that reads like advertising copy.

There are guidelines for articles on schools that discuss the tricky problem of neutral language, avoiding advertising comment and independent references.

It would appear that references to Facebook, twitter, stockportgrammar.co.uk and the educationbase.co.uk (a website which schools write their own copy) are dubious- and alternative references need to be found. Obviously isi report hosted on school site is legitimate and some extra references could be taken from this document. Paul Morleys work The North deals well with the lack of social mobility in the FW Scott days. Morley, Paul (2013). The North (and almost everything in it). London: Bloomsbury. pp. 440–477. ISBN 978 0 7475 7816 1. 


Declaration: As a former pupil I am loathe to make changes though I have no financial or existing family interest. I will limit myself to a few format changes.-- Clem Rutter (talk)

Advertising copy[edit]

I have rm this from the article following the principle WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY:

The Good Schools Guide wrote of the school that "the pupils’ overall achievement and their learning, attitudes and skills are outstanding. Pupils are exceptionally well educated and the school fulfils its aim to enable boys and girls from a wide range of backgrounds to realise their potential which gives them the best possible start in life."[1] Stockport Grammar School was identified by the Sutton Trust as one of 10 schools nationally having a significantly higher acceptance rate to university than other institutions with similar A Level results.[2]

Has anyone any ideas within WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#GT about what we can keep and where (the section) it should go? -- Clem Rutter (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Welcome to the IP editor who tried to reintroduce this text. If you would care to register and thus get a User name, we can talk co-operatively on your talk page. You can use your user page to declare any conflicts of intereste. Wikipedia has strict rules about advertising copy- and though inclusion is vital to a companies PR strategy the copy must be carefully written. The lead is tightly monitored for neutrality. As a rule of thumb- if you use words- like excellent this triggers an alert. There is a policy guideline somewhere. I moved the text to a rather artificial subsection so it can be discussed. I have left the section on fees, at the moment because it may be useful to a historian comparing modern practice with the intention in Sir Edmund Shaa's will. But it is dubious. I have reverted the bit in the info box about Public School as I understand that is factually incorrect. The reference to Direct Grant Scools is back, and it now seems it is important enough to include a section on the 44 Act in the body of the text. <br/> is not the correct way to start a new paragraph- see the use of double newline as here. Happy editing- and it would be great to see some of your sixth form creating Stockport based articles. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 10:14, 23 March 2015 (UTC)