Talk:Stony Brook University
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- 1 Proposed Law School
- 2 Change the title: from State University of New York at Stony Brook to Stony Brook University
- 3 Public Safety
- 4 Roller Hockey
- 5 George C. Williams
- 6 Residence Hall Quad Names
- 7 Princeton rankings
- 8 Mid-importance in WP New York?
- 9 W. Averell Harriman College for Urban and Policy Sciences
- 10 Added pictures
- 11 West Campus -- East Campus
- 12 Structure
- 13 Section ordering
- 14 File:SchoolSealImage.gif Nominated for Deletion
- 15 how to improve this article?
- 16 Notable faculty and alumni
- 17 SBIGS (Stony Brook Institute for Global Studies)
- 18 Topics to add to student body
Proposed Law School
--There were talks at one point to purchase Touro Center Law School. However, as noted above, the idea was thrown out after Kenny left and the state drastically cut state aid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 15:09, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Change the title: from State University of New York at Stony Brook to Stony Brook University
The official name of the university is now Stony Brook University. How can one change the title of the page and also change all links in wikipedia that point to this page?
- thats questionable because pretty much all official stuff from the university, such as purchase orders, say otherwise. "Stony Brook University" is often referred to as the "commercial name" of the University. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 10:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- The university's website lists it as Stony Brook University, and its About Us page says the same, simply adding that it's a part of the SUNY system. Compare with Binghamton University. Metsfanmax (talk) 19:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Per SUNY Central, the legal name is State University of New York at Stony Brook. Stony Brook University is acceptable for communications but official SUNY unit names are used, for example, in legislation: http://www.suny.edu/communications/pdf/campusnames-2010.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 03:20, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am a new student at Stony Brook (also known as "SBU"). I would appreciate if someone could clarify under what cases "Stony Brook University" is an acceptable name for Wikipedia articles. For instance should it be used for "xxx graduated from SBU in ...", etc. Should it be preferred in most cases, since this seems to be the colloquial name, or is it more clear to write out the full name? Sorry to harp on this point, but I feel it is important to have consistency. Danski14(talk) 01:28, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, incorrect and it is going back. See Setauket Fire District Commissioner's comments in board minutes reference University's burden on local FDs: http://www.setauketfd.com/district/minutes-2008/080417.pdf. In fact the situation is so dire for us the Fire District is trying to push the University out of our response area: http://www.setauketfd.com/district/minutes-2008/080925.pdf (Item 17 under Old Business) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:36, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
References in the first paragraph may be inappropriately used, perhaps additional references can be added to improve this section.
"There have been talks among SBU officials, including the University Police Assistant Chief, about the trend of rising crime at Stony Brook over the past few years."
- the article from the SBIndependent appears only to mention one "talk"
"It included one robbery at knife-point, a false report of an armed gunmen on campus and a dorm invasion."
- the links from newsday seem to be missing
"According to a report by CBS News there is a rising crime wave."
- This video was posted in November 2007, but the text of this article does not provide adequate specificity about the time frame for the crime wave.
"There has also been a rise of date rapes on campus."
- This appears to be a misinterpretation of the information from the University Police. Date rape statistics listed only information from 2004 to 2006 (0,0,and 3 respectively). This hardly seems representative of the current events discussed in this section. Additionally, an increase from 0 to 3 reported date/acquaintance rape incidents clearly does not account for reporting bias, nor is it necessarily significant in comparison to the total number of people on campus.
- I tend to agree that this paragraph distorts reality a bit. There is a perceived increase in crime on the campus (I speak from personal experience, so I have nothing to cite) but this appears to anybody who pays attention be a direct result of the university's relatively recent mandate of publicly announcing each crime to the student body as a safety measure. – ClockworkSoul 06:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the part about the fire department due to the poor sourcing (an article from 1980 and a mention from a board meeting). The two citations do not prove it is a "long standing issue" nor are the two sources convincing of its importance for an article. If there are news sources about it that show its an issue and has relevance it should be added. But the citations now do not show that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tr78eing (talk • contribs) 21:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Roller hockey is not a varsity sport within the athletics department at Stony Brook. See [goseawolves.org] If the information about roller hockey belongs anywhere it would be in a section for recreation or student activites.--04:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Assuming he is still there per his biography, can someone from this university or nearby please take a photo of this important evolutionary biologist? There doesn't seem to be a category for people from this university so I have no other way to ask. Richard001 (talk) 02:43, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Residence Hall Quad Names
I question the veracity of the source of the names "Roth" and "Tabler" in reference to the Stony Brook University dormitory areas known as "Roth Quad" and "Tabler Quad."
I was a student at Stony Brook University from 1970-1975. These quads were ALREADY named as noted above. I seriously doubt that the "Roth" and "Tabler" linked to by the article are, indeed, the Roth and Tabler for whom the quads are named.
Can anyone confirm this?
That's correct. Roth was named for Emery Roth & Sons, who designed the Quad. (see http://hdl.handle.net/1951/27543 page 2).
Mendelson Quad was named for Harold Mendelsohn, who worked at the University for many years and was a quad director for G Quad. (see http://hdl.handle.net/1951/25578 (page 3).
Not sure about Tabler, but I think it was also named for its designer. The rule about naming buildings for noted New Yorkers of the past only applies to the individual dorms ("colleges"), not the Quads.
I graduated from Stony Brook in 1976, and lived in the dorm commonly known as Jimi Hendrix College during the 1974-75 academic year. The building's name was officially Joseph Henry College, which I believe is still the case. In the late 60s-early 70s, it was common practice for the students to give the buildings names different from those the administration had. Three of the dorms in Kelly Quad were re-christened Groucho, Harpo, and Chico Marx Colleges, and even had some colorful signs with the Marxian names placed outside the respective buildings. There was no such sign at Hendrix/Henry, as far as I recall. Anyway (as previously noted), Roth and Tabler Quads already bore those names, and the latter would certainly not have been named after a marginal major league ballplayer, much less one who was still in high school at the time I graduated. As to Philip Roth, he hails from New Jersey, and I don't believe has spent any appreciable amount of time living in New York. Besides, the notion that university higher-ups of that time and place would have honored the author of Portnoy's Complaint in this fashion is hilarious to anyone with accurate memories of the period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJB76 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
So recently I noticed that the rankings section has been changed noticeably: SBU is now in the top 1%, not top 2%, and the mention of unhappy students was removed entirely. I can't access the reference to see whether 2007's Princeton Review, however I note that the current website (if you look up SBU) mentions that SBU is #3 for unhappy students.
- I changed the ranking to top 2% since 127th is not, in fact, in the top 1% of 8300 schools. It appears this was changed back... Metsfanmax (talk) 18:28, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Why not simply state the ranking? Anything else seems like original research. Madcoverboy (talk) 19:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- The section labeled "Routine Calculations" covers this I think. The editors of that study placed it in the top 2% of schools when they published the article, they just didn't explicitly state it; we're not making a claim that is not implicitly endorsed by the article. Metsfanmax (talk) 02:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Why not simply state the ranking? Anything else seems like original research. Madcoverboy (talk) 19:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Mid-importance in WP New York?
W. Averell Harriman College for Urban and Policy Sciences
The 'Harriman College' at SUNY Stony Brook was a small graduate program for public management active from 1977 to 1993. Funded by an endowment from the Harriman Foundation, the school graduated between 16 and 45 students each year. The program was eclipsed by the Business School and its public sector focus was quickly minimized and later eliminated. I am a graduate of the program (1985) and find it unfortunate that no reference exists here or in any of the Stony Brook reference materials regarding this program.
From the 1982 college catalog: The W. Averell Harriman College for Urban and Policy Sciences offers professional training for positions in government agencies at the federal, state and local levels and for positions in the private sector that relate to public policy.
A tremendous program gone before it's time...
We should request that the university publish literature about the program so that Harriman alumni have something to give to future employers.````ek —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 20:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I added some new pictures to try and do the school some justice. When I last visited the page, most of the images made the school look like a dull, grey, dreary place. It isn't, so I took some photos on my own as well as some from the schools website to post. I hope I did not overstep any boundaries. Atomichumbucker (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
West Campus -- East Campus
Article says: Students at Southampton are being given the option to transfer to West Campus to continue with their academic programs I finally found out what West Campus means, but it cannot be very clear to someone not currently at SUSB. Why are Southhampton students given only the option to go to "West Campus"? Couldn't Southhampton also be the East Campus & Manhattan the West one. Now I see there's a South Campus too. Even the clickable map does not use directions to identify each of the triune campuses --JimWae (talk) 02:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
-West campus refers to the main campus, south campus to the dental school, and east campus to the medical schools and HSC. Manhattan programs were also cut back during the SUSB closing. --Anthony (talk) 12:16, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
I was looking at other University pages, including the 4 SUNY Centers, and the structures start in a similar way, but Stony Brook diverges from the common structure of these articles in a few ways. I fixed one section already by renaming it to Admissions rather than Student body. Dmazza (talk) 19:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
The main thing that I'm noticing is the inclusion of an independent section on Athletics without an encompassing section on Student Life. Most Universities have such a section, and the three other University Centers have it. I think we have a fairly vibrant and relevant student life at Stony Brook, and it's interesting nonetheless. I've been working on the individual articles about the various aspects of student life at Stony Brook over the past few months. Would anyone object if I modified the article to add and reorganize this information? Dmazza (talk) 19:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
What degrees are offered? Is it made clear early enough that it is both undergraduate & graduate university? Why are residence hall names higher up in article than academic departments? What % of students are residents? What % are graduate students? What % of degrees granted are in sciences? arts? --JimWae (talk) 19:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
File:SchoolSealImage.gif Nominated for Deletion
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how to improve this article?
hi fellow editors, what needs to be done to improve this article? I am willing to work on it a bit, but I'm not really sure what to do. please advise. thanks, Mike Restivo (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- HOW ABOUT UPDATING THE SOUTHAMPTON SECTION WHOSE INFO IS PARTLY OBSOLETE? Martin Schoonen DOESN'T EVEN WORK AT SBU ANYMORE, HE MOVED TO BROOKHAVEN NATIONAL LAB IN MAY 2013. FURTHER, IN A GARBLED SENTENCE THE WIKI ARTICLE STATES SOUTHAMPTON STUDENTS "INTERACT" WITH MFA STUDENTS RATHER THAN EXPLAINING THAT SOUTHAMPTON OFFERS MFA IN ARTS AND MFA IN THEATER WHICH ARE DISTINCT FROM THE PROGRAMS ON THE MAIN CAMPUS: "Students studying the Arts are engaged in studies for filmmaking and creative writing who interract with Master's of Fine Arts students plus notable filmmakers and authors being part of the cultural legacy of the Hamptons." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:58, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Notable faculty and alumni
Hi all, I want to expand the section on "Notable faculty and alumni". Do you think it would be a good idea if I try to list the people who received each award (or list the recipients in each category)? I can also link to their WP pages, where available. Where can I find these details? Does SBU have a contact? -thx, Mike Restivo (talk) 19:02, 6 April 2012 (UTC)