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Pronunciation[edit]

This was recently deleted:

In New Zealand, it is pronounced "Su-BAR-roo", rather than "Su-ba-ROO" or the North American "SOO-ba-roo".

Is there anyone who can shed some light on the Japanese pronunciation? It's probably relevant to post these deltails as footnotes somewhere within the page.

As far as I know Japanese doesn't have a fixed stress. So all of them would be as right (or as wrong).--Error 01:58, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
As I understand it, Japanese has equal emphasis, & very short vowels, so it should be (roughly) "suh ba ruh".
On another note, anybody think we should mention Mal Bricklin for intro Sube to U.S. market? Trekphiler 16:35, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

While Japanese language has an equal rhythm, there is some level of emphasis on syllables, though mostly negligable it does change the meaning of some words. Unfortunately I am not aware of the correct emphasis for subaru, as there are very few resources available on this particular area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.49.235 (talk) 11:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Australia[edit]

The article needs something about Subaru and Australia, because for some reason a lot of people seem to think that Subaru is based in Australia RadioYeti 02:16, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In the southwestern US, I've never encountered this. In any event, isn't the statement, Subaru, a Japanese car company,... enough? You can't really get any more obvious than the first sentence in the article. --Milkmandan 03:03, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC)
It's because of the Crocodile Dundee commercials and the "Outback". I don't think it's necessary to point out their mistake. Doesn't seem very wikipedia. Krymson

Affiliate?[edit]

The articale says that Subaru is "an affiliate of Toyota Motor Corporation". Is the word affiliate appropriate here? Bugur 09:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Is this all there is?[edit]

Just dropped in, surprised how little there is here, the AMC page is like much bigger. Threw in some details of the Subaru impact in the USA, and the Pacific NW where I live.--Wiarthurhu 20:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Forwaded this link to NASIOC for some more data miners. Ianliam 13:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

New Model In Japan and subaru to drop the "propeller Grill"[edit]

i wondered whuynobody has updated about the the new subaru stella( http://www.autoblog.com/2006/06/15/subaru-stella-has-japanese-housewives-and-moms-in-mind/ ) and updated that subaru is droping the "propeller"grill in 2008 (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/28/subaru-to-pull-a-jackson-and-undergo-another-nose-job/ } 2:14 Eastern time september 12 2006

Go for it. -- BillWeiss | Talk 03:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

added diesel info[edit]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=118936 68.224.14.81 04:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The diesel section says the engine "will be introduced at the March 2007 Geneva Motor Show". That was 3 months ago. There is now quite a bit more info about it. Someone who knows diesel engines should update this section. -Athaler 16:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted reference to book[edit]

Not sure where to put. I'll let the experts decide. Just don't relink it to Amazon. Here's what I removed sans link. Nposs 07:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

  • The book Where the Suckers Moon: The Life and Death of an Advertising Campaign] covers most of Subaru's history, up through the mid-90's launch of the SVX.

Cultural References[edit]

How would people feel about reducing this section? It's growing rather long without any way to limit it. It could be reduced to a few sentences. -- BillWeiss | Talk 17:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Cultural references for all wikipedia articles are just becoming Trivia sections. 70.41.230.90 22:28, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I've added a comment line requesting that people do not add to the section. I'll delete all the references of the sort "Bill Bloogs mentioned Subaru in his song Ma Dawg Has Died". Paul Fisher 02:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Since no one defended it, I just cut the section. It only had marginal relevance to the article. -- BillWeiss | Talk 19:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I just deleted the sentence in the history section referencing the demise of the Audi Allroad, as it is still made today. The writer said it met its demise in the "2000s" but it has been produced since 1999 to today. Corey L 11:00, 12 Dec. 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.200.128.45 (talk) 16:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

About[edit]

Do you know, I call a Subaru car sale in Lilydale, Subaru City. Subaru City is where all the Subarus live. --Blake3522 07:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

The timeline at the bottom of the Subaru page needs to be corrected as the second generation legacy was in production from 1995-1999. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.213.198 (talk) 01:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Subaru Logo.svg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

rallying and "import scene"[edit]

The line "just like VW/Audi did years before" - is it really necessary? Not only is it mentioning VW/Audi for no reason (they have a totally different AWD system, and it isn't the same kind of import scene), but the reference URL it cites is dead. Did VW/Audi even have any type of AWD system before Subaru did? And if they did, is it worth mentioning VW/Audi? Should this article mention every manufacturer that did something before Subaru did it?

Update: The Quattro was used as a rally car in the 1980s

However, this "Scene" that is referred to isn't easily verifiable... it just seems a VW fan threw that line in there to one-up Subaru owners

timeline is not in sequence[edit]

not the actual graphical timeline of models, but the explanation throughout the article -- the series of events are way out of order. for example the article talks of the redesigned 2002 Impreza WRX, but then goes back to 1995 to talk about the Sambar EV in the same paragraph. Not only is it off topic, it's out of sequence. Can someone with a lot of time clean this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.187.208 (talk) 16:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I had some time and reorganized this article so that it has a better sense of chronology. (Dddike (talk) 14:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC))

Origins of Subaru[edit]

I don't think Nakajima was the main manufacturer of aircraft in Japan during WW2. For the Zero, Mitsubushi made the aircraft and Nakajima made the engines.

One of Nakajima's last research centres to be developed was at Musashi-Sakai, then outside Tokyo proper. (They also had factories in occupied China.) After the war, as stated in the article, it was under American governance that Nakajima was was broken up into various component parts.

The Musashi-Sakai campus was sold to what would become ICU (International Christian University), a pioneering institute of Higher Education, which would become famous for its liberal arts curriculum. The research centre still provides the main teaching building. Also, part of the campus was retained for manufacturing, and now is part of Subaru. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Postrestant6691 (talkcontribs) 19:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Subaru 1960[edit]

‘I find all the discussion about an excellent car very informative. I was an importer of Subaru in 1966/73 then it was a 1300 cc. front wheel drive, very reliable and won every rally we entered. I imported through Nichiman & Co. in Zambia, still have a scrap book. First class product. George Beckman. Cape Town165.145.255.172 (talk) 09:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Justy listed under false drive characteristic[edit]

the article lists the Justy with the other models under "North America/Europe/Oceania/Middle East/Asia/Japan Subaru models, permanent all wheel drive with boxer engine." but the Justy doesn't have this, but a front wheel drive (standard) and only optional, non-permanentall wheel drive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.59.83.19 (talk) 01:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality of the "Subaru In Canada" section.[edit]

It ain't neutral and to follow rules and regulations I'll put this here on the talk page so ya'll can talk about it amongst yourselves. 70.189.86.163 (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you be a bit more specific, what exactly is not neutral? Loosmark (talk) 21:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I'd like to know why as well. It seems fine to me. What is inaccurate? Please note that in order to drop flags this way you should (must) provide much more information than merely "it ain't neutral." BingoDingo (talk) 13:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I agree - it's like a joint venture between the Canadian Tourism Board and Subaru's marketing team. Much as Canada is a gorgeous place, with lovely people, the opening paragraph could be applied to just about every foreign company's Canada info in Wikipedia. The cause and effect of Subaru's technology doesn't mean that the sales are at a record level (and there's no citations for this record level, what the level is - versus previous Subaru sales, compared to other manufacturers or something else entirely - like the fact that more people buy cars these days. Although, you'd have to guess that this year isn't a record year for them given the slump. The only reason why I'm not editing it outright is this discussion. I'd suggest to be factual it should be: --Escottf (talk) 19:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Subaru Auto Canada Limited (SACL) began offering a full range of vehicles in 1976. In 1989, the privately owned SACL was purchased by the Toronto-based Subaru Canada, Inc., who, under the guidance of parent company Fuji Heavy Industries, began an expansion process that would eventually see over 100 Subaru Dealers in operation across the country.

Subaru Canada, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fuji Heavy Industries of Japan. Headquartered in Mississauga, Ontario, the company markets and distributes Subaru vehicles, parts and accessories through a network of 88 authorized dealers across Canada.


I think I see it; the problem is basically that the author of some of these comments seems overly affectionate towards Canada. Consider the followig: "With constantly changing weather and landscape that encompasses everything from the sprawling prairies of Saskatchewan to the concrete canyons of Toronto to the imposing majesty of the Canadian Rockies." This is not necessarily untrue, but much of it is inappropriate in tone. Beau, 16 September 2009

Origins and logo.[edit]

The reference http://www.subaru-global.com/origin_name.html says 'FHI was created by the merger of six companies' and talks about the six stars in the Pleiades star cluster but makes no mention of one star standing out above the rest. The reference http://www.fhi.co.jp/ (Japanese) makes no mention of the origins of the name or logo and has no obvious links to such a page. A little bit of digging found http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/outline/inoutline/brand/index.html but it also only talks about 6 stars (no mention of the big one). Does anybody have any references about the large star or should just leave it as 6 stars (ie no significance for the large star)? Cheers.  Stepho  (talk) 23:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Historic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.250.60 (talk) 05:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Historic Models[edit]

I think the 1989-1994 Subaru Legacy should be included in the Historic Models section of this page for the following reasons:

1) The 1989 Subaru Legacy was, at the time, the largest vehicle Subaru had ever made.


2) The 1989 Subaru Legacy was also the most powerful vehicle Subaru had ever made.


3) The 1989 Subaru Legacy featured the largest engine Subaru had ever made until that date.


4) The 1989 Subaru Legacy had the longest list of features of any Subaru vehicle to date, including standard power windows and locks, standard A/C, lumbar support, and AM/FM/Tape/Equalizer radio, 4 wheel independent suspension, 4 wheel disc brakes, 4X 6 1/2" speakers, electronic sequential multi-port fuel injection, electronic distributor-less ignition, and the infamous "Manual" mode. Optional equipment included ABS, AWD, 15" alloy wheels, sunroof, air ride adjustable suspension, and later a turbo model with a CD player.

On a more personal note... Who the Hell had a CD player in their car in 1990???? I didn't! Did you? I didn't think so! If you had a 1990 Subaru Legacy turbo you did! That's just cool! Think back to 1990, and imagine having a CD player in your car,. Nevermind air shocks, power everything, AC, cruise, a sunroof, a turbo, ABS, and AWD! The first generation Legacy was a beast, and it paved the way for Subaru to become what they are today. Without the Legacy, Subaru would probably be on par with Dihatsu and would be lucky to be on par with Kia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.250.60 (talk) 05:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Fight Mediocrity![edit]

This whole subsection comes off more as an advertisement than an informative, neutral piece of information. Nothing is cited, and there's a direct link to an advertisement page. Shouldn't this section be removed? – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 01:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

muscle car[edit]

In Need for Speed: Nitro for Wii, i saw an old subaru muscle car in the "B" class. The cars in nfs nitro are real life cars, like the Audi R8, but does a subaru muscle car really exist? Jawadreventon (talk) 17:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Muscle cars are big engines in medium bodies (medium by US standards). Think Mustang. Think V8. Subaru never a muscle car but they did make small cars with powerful engines that handle better than practically any muscle car.  Stepho  talk  22:37, 13 June 2012 (UTC)