Talk:Surrealist automatism

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Is redirecting from automatic mathematics rather than a separate article to here the best way to go? I am open to arguments... --Daniel C. Boyer 20:17, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Merge with surautomatism[edit]

I don't see any reason for this, as the two are, or are alleged to be, different subjects. What is the basis for this? --Daniel C. Boyer 20:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Upon closer reading, I see the distinction, and will remove the request. --sparkit (talk) 00:20, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Computer(?)[edit]

The above appears to be original research or theorizing as the external link discusses algorithmic art. Hyacinth 20:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Algorithmic art, complete with the term, has been around since the early 1980s at the latest. I added an article on it yesterday. surrealist-geek 04:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

non-idiomatic improvisation and free jazz[edit]

these are different things. non-idiomatic improvisation equates with Derek Bailey's concept of free improvisation. jazz is already an idiom, therefore free jazz is a form of idiomatic improvisation. check the bailey and free improv pages in wikepedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.154.113 (talk) 01:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Automatic mathematics?[edit]

I removed the following during my recent cleanup of the article:

Some surrealists write automatic mathematics or equations. Some surrealists understand automatism as relating to the internalization of skills and perceptual feedback. There are vast tracts of surrealist mathematics written in the form of competent philosophy that define the surrealist process and results, a contemporary form of analytic geometry applied to the fine arts and related subjects.

This is written in a very speculative manner and is unreferenced, to boot. Considering the tone of its assertions, it should have some heavy-duty references. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:19, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Image for automatic running of filters in computer graphics programs[edit]

I am restoring this. It isn't self-promotion (necessarily) to produce your own images, and Wikipedia in fact contemplates this. If anyone else produces a licenced example, or is able to locate one, I will consider it more than appropriate to replace mine. --Daniel C. Boyer (talk) 13:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The actual origins of automatic drawing[edit]

... are not known. But they definitely predate these French guys writing in 1919. The first article I know of on the subject of automatic drawing was written by Austin Osman Spare and Frederick Carter. Published in Form Magazine vol. 1, no. 1 in 1916, it was called Automatic Drawing, and it documented the technique Spare had been using to plumb his subconscious mind since around 1900. Fuzzypeg 11:31, 15 December 2010 (UTC)