Talk:Taklamakan Desert

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Etymology[edit]

"Gunnar Jarring provides a more scholarly, but less pithy, investigation into the origin of the toponym, see reference below."

Can someone indicate what conclusions Jarring reaches?

(We shouldn't have sentences like this in Wikipedia articles, in my opinion. If we can't at least sum up what a journal article says on a topic, we should just add the title to the references section at the end, it has the same informative value.) --Cam 18:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed the sentence. For a not-so-pithy justification, see comment above. --Cam 03:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Gunnar Jarring (1907-2002) had a PhD in Turkish languages, and wrote An Eastern Turki-English dialect dictionary (1964) and a book on Central Asian Turkic place-names (1997). I haven't read either, but am told he explains the name Takla Makan as "the home of ruins". I will consult these works and update this article if the explanation given is confirmed. Hexmaster (talk) 17:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed from article as unsourced and seemingly like OR[edit]

Some references fancifully state that Taklamakan means "if you go in, you won't come out"; others state that it means "Desert of Death" or "Place of No Return". "Makan" is a Turkic word meaning "place", of Arabic origin: the word may mean something different if treated as original pre-Islamic native Turkic. A more realistic derivation of the meaning should rather be as follows: "takla" has the meaning of "return" or "revolve" in Turkic; "ma" is a suffix of negation; and finally "kan" is a gerund suffix; altogether we obtain the expression that would be understood in Turkic languages as "unreturnable".

This may be returned to the article if it is properly sourced and written in an encyclopedic tone. Thanks! Sincerely, Mattisse 23:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone added this back in with a reference to travelchinaguide.com. It should be noted that travelchinaguide.com is not a reliable source on this subject. It is a travel agency that sells tours. Better sources should be used instead. I can find a reasonable source for the name "Desert of Death" but not for "Place of No Return" or "if you go in, you won't come out". If no other sources are added I will remove the unsourced material. Rincewind42 (talk) 07:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Removing unsourced material to talk page[edit]

  • I have looked unsuccessfully for sources for these:

The White Jade River flows into the Taklamakan, as do the Yarkand River originating in the Kunlun Mountains and the river from the Tien Shan range.[citation needed]

The population of the larger cities is predominantly Han Chinese.[citation needed] --Mattisse 11:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Size matters?[edit]

Aye, counting from http://geology.com/records/largest-desert.shtml I get Taklaman as 18th, but checking from List of deserts by area it's 17th there. Seems there are contradicting estimates on desert area - what to do? Cheers, Rayshade (talk) 22:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Impact Crater[edit]

I removed the sentence stating the possibility of the Taklamakan being an impact crater. The reference given was just a picture of the Hellas Basin, which while similarly shaped does not provide evidence toward the origin of the Taklamakan. I searched for any references to the possiblity of the Tarim Basin (where the Taklamakan is located) being formed by an impact, and could not find anything. So I think the claim that Taklamakan / Tarim could have been formed by an meteor impact is unverifiable.

This is the sentence I removed:

It is possible that the Taklamakan Desert is an impact crater. It bears a striking resemblance to a very large crater on Mars named Hellas Basin.[1]

Terranean (talk) 19:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

What is missing[edit]

No mention of the huge underground irrigation system popping up at the oasis area, coming from the glaciers and transporting water without loss due to evaporation.

Genezistan (talk) 16:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC).

  1. ^ "Celestia screenshots gallery/Deimos and Mars". Guillermo Abramson. Retrieved 2010-12-14.