Talk:Tantrum

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A list of terms for Tantrumand any connotations for those terms might be useful (eg "hissy fit" - which does have specific associations).

Autism as intellectual disability?[edit]

In the tantrum article, the writers refer to autism as an intellectual disability. It is in fact a neurological condition and does not affect the intellect primarily. --Bronwyn Gannan 06:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC).

  • Someone seems to have reverted that edit. I just changed it from "intellectual disability" to "mental illness," since it's listed in the DSM. --grant 21:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

autism isent an itellectual disability or mental illnes it is the absence of social proggraming in the brain, it has some genetic factor to it and isent actually conected to low intellect, infact einstien had a rare form of autism called aspergers, autistics are more prone to tantrums due to pure confusion when faced with a social situation (its like a space alien trying to get you to use alien technology if your an autistic in a social situation) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.201.197.61 (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I broadly agree and have removed specific mention of Autism. An Autistic meltdown is not the same thing as a tantrum in a non-Autistic but this gets into specialist stuff. It might look like that but there are fundamental differences. An effect caused by temper and an effect caused by involuntary overload possibly caused by third parties are not the same thing. Moreover there is a tacit blame which is plain wrong for Autism: implied they are just being bad when that is not the case. The literature is poor on all this, we still in the stone age. Putting this another way: someone without the social concept and without the usual concept of other people and without the same here and now cannot be classed with the majority. In my view the best move is keep silent, there is no need to name. Feel free to discuss this. Tchannon (talk) 02:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

These are common but ignorant attitudes toward autism; only Tchannon's comment is enlightening. Suffice it to say that some autistic people can have an intellectual disability, but most do not. Is autism a mental illness? The term "mental illness" does not appear in either the Autism article (which is a featured article) or in the Autism spectrum disorder article. I don't think autism should be highlighted in the tantrum article any more than any other disorder should be, otherwise it's POV. Midtempo-abg (talk) 21:41, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced info[edit]

"Usually tantrums are seen in children of the ages of 3-6 but sometimes 7-9; this is a very clear case of emotional disinhibition caused by immature forebrain development." This needs a reliable source, such as a textbook or journal article. Otherswise it should be removed as original research. I have seen tantrums by those older and certainly younger than the specified age range, and manifestations of anger are likely to originate in parts of the brain other than the forebrain. Edison 16:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I have see my sister who is 12 perform spectacular tantrums.--86.157.2.58 15:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
And all those above-18 spoiled whores on tv we all worship and give money to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I boldly removed this original research. DavidSJ (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


In infants, it is important to differentiate between developmental etiologies of tantrums as fostered by environment versus temperamental etiologies of tantrums as determined by innate organic idiosyncrasies. - This sentence made me laugh... any chance it could be rewritten for the layman? 65.30.125.243 (talk) 00:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Major Edit[edit]

I've just chopped this article substantially, for what I hope are good reasons. The majority of this article made rather wide-ranging 'psychological' claims that have seemingly remained uncited since 2007. The language was also unnecessarily verbose and dense. FergusRossFerrier (talk) 18:29, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Etymology?[edit]

Possibly indian?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Googling "tantrum etymology" doesn't throw up any ready answers. Are you suggesting it could be the singular of "tantra"? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 00:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

narcissistic rage[edit]

narcissistic rage is closely related to temper tantrums. Needs to be covered. I'll just put in a See also link for now. --Penbat (talk) 09:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Expand?[edit]

In looking at the Examples from media section, should this be expanded with things such as perhaps notes regarding: Veruca Salt? (and I'm sure there are a host of others available) — Ched :  ?  14:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)