Talk:Telepathy

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Important note, and requests by nick5990[edit]

Note that there are presently no citations to previously published scientific journals for the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs for "delusions" and "psychosis" under "Origins of the concept". Thus it is likely this is someone's opinion rather than based on sound sources. These 2 paragraphs should be removed if not questioned until their verifiability is confirmed.

Please add http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jutts/UttsStatPsi.pdf as a reference and external link on the telepathy article page, since it is currently not listed. This will provide readers with a more informed view of the topic and past scientific research into telepathy. Nick5990 (talk) 09:44, 6 July 2014 (UTC)nick5990

I removed your comments from the article, and I'm glad that you have put them here. I moved your signature to the bottom, after all your comments. I don't have time to investigate at the moment, but there are a couple of references. Possibly you are saying that references 11 and 12 only verify some fact not directly related to the text as it relates to the topic of this article? That would need to be checked. Please be patient, it may be a few days before anyone looks further. Johnuniq (talk) 11:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Nick is not entirely correct but I am glad he has pointed this out about that section. The stuff on "psychological symbiosis" was original research. I cannot find any reference linking this to telepathy. The content however about delusions and psychosis being linked to belief in telepathy are well sourced. Goblin Face (talk) 12:26, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
A second look at this, I think it is possible that Nick5990 (talk · contribs) is the previously banned user Eameece (talk · contribs) who had vandalized this article, they both sign their comments in the wrong way, have the same writing style and have said the same things about the article. Goblin Face (talk) 15:34, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

You're wrong, Goblin Face, as usual. Eameece (talk) 03:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)eameece

Wikipedia loses a lot of credibility because bonifide research into paranormal subjects is not allowed on its pages, or even on its talk pages. To say that refusal to cover this research, or even allow links to it, is NOT about "improving the article," contributes to this lack of credibility. Most people know that telepathy exists, because they have experienced it. People want information on the subject. Now, people wanting more information on this subject are blocked from getting it, just because wikipedia editors want to limit coverage to one point of view, and call any alternative views that are posted to this page "vandalism." Allowing links to research that shows telepathy exists, as well as research that doesn't, would vastly "improve" the article. Right now, coverage is limited to research saying it doesn't. This research is mostly carried out by skeptics, and most of the links on this page are not to researchers, but to skeptical writers. This is a very poor article that hurts wikipedia's reputation, and articles like this and others on related topics cause many people to look upon wikipedia as an unreliable resource on many other topics. Why can't there be a place on wikipedia for knowledge on these topics, and not just one point of view? Eameece (talk) 19:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)eameece