Talk:Tench-class submarine

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I question this spec:

Displacement: 1826 tons surfaced, 2391 tons submerged

I've got a copy of Lenton's American Submarines, & he puts Tench around the same size as Gato & Balao, as you'd expect, since the design isn't much different (heavier frames & skins, not longer or beamier, maybe a bit more equipment). Explain, somebody? (Of course, whoever put these specs up also had her with 4x6500hp, so how much credence can I give these numbers...?) Trekphiler 19:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wahoo[edit]

Why is the Wahoo listed twice under the list of Tench subs? Noha307 20:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There were actually three of them: SS238 (a Gato), & 2 replacements, both Tench-class, SS-518 & SS-516, both cancelled at MINY Vallejo late in the war as surplus to needs. Trekphiler 21:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC) (BTW, if you recall "Six Million Dollar Man", SS-509, often used to deliver Steve, was a Tench GUPPY by her hull number; in fact, SS-509 was cancelled.)[reply]

Just saw "Firefox" this past week. She wore SS-509, too... Trekphiler 22:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Electrifying[edit]

I added the battery makers, again from Lenton; the dived range, see Gato Trekphiler 21:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PNS Ghazi[edit]

The article on submarines states "The PNS Ghazi, a Tench class submarine on loan to Pakistan from the US, was lost in the Indo-Pakistani War. It was the first submarine casualty since World War II during war time." Yet this page states no submarines lost, which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.217.35 (talk) 12:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. RobDuch (talk) 05:50, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

The image in this article is of an updated (GUPPP The Greater Underwater Propulsion Power Program) version, and not the original Tench version. Notice the foredeck and nose shape difference between the original and the this updated version.Ineuw (talk) 23:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed image to WW2 version (minus guns). RobDuch (talk) 05:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

" Ships in the class " section / list[edit]

Hello everybody ,

I found out this article , unlike others like Fletcher-class destroyers , didn't have " Ships in class " section / list.

So I'd like to make a list for it. I may need someone to provide me information if it's needed as well since I don't have any material in my place.

Who's gonna have the same thought or now making in progress , please respond. Otherwise , I will do it when I have time.

Thank you. -- Comrade John (talk) 09:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have the "Register of Ships of the United States Navy 1775-1990" and I will be assisting Comrade John in preparing the list. RobDuch (talk) 04:11, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Along with creating class list articles, I am proposing to restructure the Gato/Balao/Tench information in accordance with the "Register of Ships of the United States Navy 1775-1990" by Bauer & Roberts. The existing information is largely derived from Lenton, whose main problem is an assumption that all submarines SS-417 and later were or would have been Tench-class. Bauer & Roberts break out the situation in more detail, especially with cancelled submarines. RobDuch (talk) 23:36, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Based on input from Parsecboy at WP:SHIPS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships#Cancelled_USN_submarine_names), once I'm finished with the Balao-class list I'm thinking of changing the stub articles for cancelled subs that were never laid down to redirects to the class article. These apparently were given stub articles because they have small DANFS articles, such as this one. I plan to retain the stub articles for those subs that were laid down, and of course for the two that served as test hulks postwar. RobDuch (talk) 19:09, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

:::: Conversion of stub articles to redirects completed. Decided not to retain stub articles for ships that were laid down but broken up before launching. RobDuch (talk) 22:03, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]