Talk:The Authority

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject Comics / United States / DC Comics (Rated C-class, Mid-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Comics, a collaborative effort to build an encyclopedic guide to comics on Wikipedia. Get involved! If you like to participate, you can help with the current tasks, visit the notice board, edit the attached article or discuss it at the project's talk page.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 Mid  This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
 

Beckham[edit]

dudes the colonel is a tribute ( if u can call it that) to DAVID BECKHAM. Isnt that clear so why erase a clear fact. gimme a reson and i'll let go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.23.18 (talk) 18:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Considering the Colonel is a murderous psychopath and Beckham is a real person, that's why. You can't go around comparing real non-criminals to fictional criminals, Wikipedia just doesn't allow it. Lots42 (talk) 07:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The Colonel is a chain-smoking, homophobic hooligan and doesn't look like anyone of note. I'm not sure why you attribute him as a Beckham tribute? He was created as a right-wing antithesis to Jenny Sparks. Mutant Raccoon (talk) 22:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

About The Doctor[edit]

I took the liberty of deleting the "her" out of "each Doctor was twice as powerful as his or her immediate predecessor". There are a couple of instances in the comic where we get to see the past doctors, and they are all males, plus the last issue of Authority Revolution pretty much establishes that it's an "all boys" club (IE: the party with the Jennies). By the way, boy isn't it nice that the Authority finally has a Doctor that isn't too stoned and/or scared to put his powers in good use? His way of dealing with the Rose Tatoo was plain awesome, and I wonder if she is really part of team now. We'll se in V4, I guess.

The Authority: Revolution[edit]

I don't think we really need two seperate articles. There's already a (very brief) section on Revolution in the main article, and I think the content from The Authority: Revolution will be more useful there. -- Vary | Talk 05:02, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure. I just thought it fit better outside of the main article since it was so informative. But if you feel that it would do just as well in the main article, then go right ahead. :) Solofire6 05:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

The section is very complete and informative, but the rest of the series, with minis and crossovers and everything, is dealt with in the main article, so it's just easier to keep everything together. I'll put a redirect at the article you created, in case anyone goes looking for the book there. Thanks! -- Vary | Talk 05:42, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

All done! -- Vary | Talk 06:01, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Golden ratio/Fibonacci number[edit]

I do not know why the anonymous editor claims that the Fibonacci sequence does not apply to the level of The Doctor's power. Maybe because we do not know that the first two Doctors had equivalent power levels. Until and unless someone offers an explanation here, I am restoring the reference, using Golden ratio (which is more generally applicable) instead of Fibonacci number. Luis Dantas 18:45, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll explain. Say the first Doctor has power level = 1. The second Doctor, who has the power level of all preceeding Doctors, has power level = 1 also. That is true. The third Doctor has power level = 1+1 = 2. So far, this is the Fibonacci sequence. The difference is what comes next. The fourth Doctor has power level = 1+1+2 = 4, and not 1+2 = 3 as the Fibonacci sequence would suggest. The fifth Doctor has power = 1+1+2+4 = 4+4 = 2*4 = 8. The sixth = 1+1+2+4+8 = 2*8 = 16. So, apart from the first two, each Doctor will have exactly twice the power level of the previous Doctor (assuming that power levels can be quantified in this way and that the information in the article is accurate). This is a geometric progression (and, incidentally, has nothing at all to do with the Golden Ratio). -- Supermorff 19:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Storyline[edit]

These sections are nice to have but they need some serious clean-up. I've done volume one but i'm not familar with any other volume so if anyone fancies a pop feel free.Logan1138 14:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I don't know if anyone has changed them since you first suggested this in January, but when I came across the article today, I felt it looked pretty bad. I've just cleaned up the sections a bit. Hopefully they look a bit more streamlined. If anyone is still payign attention to this, let me know what you think. Nightscream 23:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm shortening this section as it seems to be where most of this page's undesired length comes from. -- SamSim 00:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Current leader of the Authority[edit]

Currently, the article lists Jack Hawksmoor as the leader of the Authority. However, the Authority as led by Hawksmoor disbands in book one of Revolution, and when it reforms in Book Two, it's Jenny Quantum who brings everyone back together, and she certainly seems to take up a leadership position for the rest of that volume, and both Apollo and Midnighter comment on her being the leader of the team (Apollo on settling into a leadership role, and Midnighter on letting Rose Tattoo into "her" team). As I understand it, nothing has been published since then, so as of the end of Revolution Book Two, isn't the current leader of the Authority Jenny Quantum? Reveilled 00:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Fascism[edit]

I took out the blurb about the authority being described as fascist because a) they weren't (they were dictators and authoritarians), and b) it was unsourced in any event. Wikipedia doesn't need another debate about what fascism is, but it's not anytime you become a dictator and kill people for disagreeing with you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.16.144.44 (talkcontribs) 04:13, 20 June, 2006 (UTC).

Statements made within the material which is the subject matter of the article do not (as far as I'm aware) need to be sourced. The characters within the comics who disagree with the Authority describe them as Fascists. Reveilled 12:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Still, that said, anyone else find it funny that the radical-left superhero team is almost entirely middle-class white men deciding how to remake the world, almost always by force, without ever questioning the morality of their means or ends? Phillip (talk) 22:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Annual 2000[edit]

It gets a mention as part of the Earth Inferno tpb but perhaps the volume (by Joe Casey and Cully Hamner) needs more of a mention? [1] (Emperor 01:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC))

The Carrier[edit]

There is currently an entry linked in at Carrier (comics) but it just redirects back here. Worth an entry? What would it include? Known facts, its hisotry, offensive use, etc. Also worth mentioning that Bunny in The Elite is based on it. Thoughts? (Emperor 23:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC))

Done and done. -- SamSim 14:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Too big?[edit]

Its throwing up a warning that the page is now 46kb - granted this is largely about legact browsers and the like but is a reasonable indication that things are a bit too big. Given Grant Morrison's run is going to start soon then its only going to grow. Any ideas on trimming things down - possibly by moving some content to other entries? I am thinking the whole Kev storyline precis could be added into the Kev Hawkins entry. (Emperor 15:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC))

Cut down the Storylines section. Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Style guidance#Brief summary and WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information #7. --Newt ΨΦ 16:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Move[edit]

Why was this article moved? "The Authority" is the correct title of the comic book. --Andromeda 19:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah there has been a lot of things being moved around on the justification that it is per the Comics Project naming policy but really you only need to qualify it like this when there are naming conflicts and these moves have been rather a blanket thing without looking into the specifics of each case (or consulting). If The Authority redirects here then it should be under that name. So you have my vote for a move back (Emperor 23:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC))
I'd agree with that - if comic project naming policy is to use an incorrect name - well it's wrong. --Charlesknight 09:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's more than just WikiProject Comics that has this policy. It's an official policy of Wikipedia. [2] However, to my mind, this meets one of the exceptions to the rule. [3] --GentlemanGhost 18:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Improving[edit]

This is still pretty big. I was wondering about ways to improve things and it strikes me the story lines and publication history can be integrated. The publication history could easily be trimmed down - that entire last paragraph on Millar's post-Authority non-DC work just isn't needed here and would seem better on Millar's own entry. It could be summed up in a sentence. So have Volume 1 with sub-headers for the "eras" with an opening paragraph or two and then the storylines and so on with summaries kept to a couple of paragraphs unless really necessary (Reality Incorporated and The Eternal Return still seem too long). As it stands the information is oddly spread out with graphic novels under the publishing history and not storylines. Also can the Kev Saga be trimmed down and the bulk of the material moved to his entry? (Emperor 23:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC))

Uck. I just finished splitting the Storylines and Publication History sections apart from each other. Quite frankly, even knowing most of the Authority publication history already, the article was immensely confusing when arranged like that. The in-universe story and the events in reality are two separate "stories" and I think they should be kept separate. Other articles do likewise, and it makes more sense to read the publication history in light of the storylines.
Anyway, whatever happens, the whole thing IS a lot shorter now I've gone to town on the Storylines section. Certainly it could be shortened further but I've tried to keep the synopses proportional in length to the number of issues - most arcs are 4 issues, but there are some one-shots and The Eternal Return is 12 issues, hence its length. In any case I am sure the Publication History could be likewise abbreviated and simplified. I am musing on whether or not to merge the One-Offs and Specials section in with either/both, to save more space still. -- SamSim 15:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

The biggest problem is the lead section. It doesn't tell anyone any details ... what is The Authority about?~ZytheTalk to me! 23:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Authority18.jpg[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg

Image:Authority18.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 18:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Authorityv4.jpg[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg

Image:Authorityv4.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 18:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Authoritywidescreen.jpg[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg

Image:Authoritywidescreen.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 18:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Coup01.jpg[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg

Image:Coup01.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Censorship[edit]

Just linking this here, so I don't forget about it - I want to write a section about the subject. --Allemandtando (talk) 15:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required[edit]

This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject. If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class. The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject. Comics-awb (talk) 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Done. The article is peppered with requests for citations and there needs to be a lot more referencing (I'm sure a lot could be picked up from interviews) and it could really do with more out-of-universe material like reception. (Emperor (talk) 13:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC))

Fractal[edit]

Did the time-traveling used to negate the threat of Fractal undo all the world-wide damage she caused? Because if so, this should be noted. Lots42 (talk) 07:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

End of Authority/WildStorm Imprint[edit]

I have just read that DC have announced an end to the WildStorm imprint and therefore the Authority. Below is an article confirming that for reference and there is a reference in the WildStorm page itself. http://www.newsarama.com/comics/creators-react-wildstorm-end-100922.html Master z0b (talk) 01:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)