Talk:The Closer

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Closer?[edit]

What does she close? Hyacinth 12:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Cases. MiraLuka 04:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
This point is important, and should be in the article lead. I have a friend who has vision problems, so sometimes misses content on TV. She had to ask me to find out why the program was called The Closer, so it is not at all obvious. The official website states, "Brenda often closes her cases by eliciting a confession or cornering a suspect through sometimes-questionable methods." so that could be used. HairyWombat 00:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Your friend can't hear either? Anyways, it's obvious the show is a crime drama, so naturally the title 'The Closer' refers to closing cases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darktangent (talkcontribs) 00:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Later. Done. HairyWombat 01:32, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Character pages[edit]

I'm going to create a page for the character Brenda Leigh Johnson. I'm thinking along the lines of the page that exists for Robert Goren. In fact, I'm going to use the template "Template:LawandOrderCharacter" since there is not a character template for The Closer. Right now, I'm working in the sandbox. Anyone got any problems, email me. (UTC)ktoonen 00:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you going to do more, or just the one? If the latter, the infobox can be considerably simplified.
—wwoods 02:14, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Is someone going to add Buzz to the character pages, since he is now a main character? Rayhne (talk) 18:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Layout mess[edit]

Why does the International broadcasters table appear at the bottom of the page and not inside the corresponding section of the article? I just checked with Opera, Firefox, IE and Safari, and non of them show the table where it's supposed to be. Does anybody know how to fix this? --Salocin 14:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I just noticed this, too. It's very strange because the edit page seems to show the body of the grid just below the International broadcasters title. NorthernThunder 22:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
My guess is that the source code for this page is good, but that something's messed up with the template used to create the table... But I'm not good enough in Wikipedia's markup language to find, let alone fix an error like this :/ --Salocin 22:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Provenza's first name[edit]

Someone has created a page for Salvitore "Sal" Provenza, linked Lt. Provenza. To date, Provenza has no first name (see the TNT characters page to verify). It's obvious this was made up, because the person didn't spell Salvatore correctly. The best evidence Provenza has no name was in "Grave Doubts" when his card was shown on camera: we saw clearly there was NO first name. In addition, Provenza does not use his first name on the tape in "Homewrecker" although all the others do. Duff's game has been to slowly reveal characters' first names. We just learned Commander Taylor's in 3.13, and didn't know Tao's until the beginning of Season Two.

To deal with this, I've moved all the content from the Sal Provenza page to a new one listing him as (No First Name) Provenza, and linking it back to the show page. It may look odd, but at least it's accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmargi (talkcontribs) 23:47, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I recently reverted two edits adding Provenza's first name. "Sal" is a nonsense that lives on these pages alone - someone probably pulled it out of his/her hat. "George" is the fictional name Provenza used while undercover; it was acknowledged in dialog in the episode "Dial M for Provenza." Later in the episode, Provenza was asked his first name and he refused to divulge it, saying it was "Lieutenant". Drmargi (talk) 17:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Plot similiarities with Prime Suspect[edit]

My husband and I have just watched the first season of Prime Suspect - and the show seems to have been the inspiration for the Closer! Jane Tennyson gets to take over a case but the people she works with are very suspiciout of her, in particular there is one man who is constantly out to prove she is incompetent and should be fired. She is brusque and quirky and her people skills are a bit off. There is even a scene where the guys have come around and leave a letter for the administration saying they are loyal with her and will not accept her getting fired (just like in the Closer) - any comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.20.228.61 (talk) 06:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Only that the entire concept of a high level supervisor doing interrogations is a crock--this one just carries the past Hollywood trend to the ludicrous. Make her a D2 or D3 and you have a good concept, not a manifesto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.238.92.21 (talk) 09:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Press release?[edit]

Perhaps I'm missing the point, but the opening section reads more like a press release than an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paradise Pete (talkcontribs) 19:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Seconded, several parts of this article read like a press release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.62.130 (talk) 14:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

That's because it IS from a press release. http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20050112tnt01 I'm taking it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.162.96 (talk) 02:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

New department name[edit]

Is anyone going to update the department name from "Priority Homicide" to "Major Crimes"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.210.140.170 (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

It's done. The usual form, however, when you notice something needs to be done is to do it yourself, not leave a discussion point and expect others to make an edit. Drmargi (talk) 16:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
OK - that was not so nice lol..
Anyway I have tidied it up a bit and please dont lose heart 141.210.140.170 - if you are worried about editing the pages yourself, feel free to suggest the change here, leave a copy of what you propose and someone will most likely help you with adding or correcting anything you are unsure about
Wikipedia is edited by the people for the people so create an account, and join in ! its easy and can be fun most of the time. You can start with simple edits such as spelling mistakes and work your way up to more extensive tasks
Good luck! Chaosdruid (talk) 21:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


I was unable to edit the notes, and so would like to point out an absurdity that perhaps someone else can correct. The relevant portion of the note reads: "The Division's name was first changed from Priority Murder Squad when it was recognized that the initials were PMS, with the resultant conflict over Chief Johnson's gender." First, Chief Johnson's sex is female—the belief that "gender" has a primary biological sense is an unfortunate effect of Americans' nervous desire not to fall afoul of the feminist thought police. Second, since Johnson is clearly a woman, there is no possible ground for any "conflict" about her sex or her gender (meaning her type of femininity)—it is not clear what "resultant conflict over Chief Johnson's gender" could possibly mean. The line should read "...when it was recognized that, given Chief Johnson's sex, the acronym PMS was highly suggestive." —Wordwright — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordwright (talkcontribs) 02:02, 10 July 2012 (UTC)