Talk:The Dictator (2012 film)

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The Ryan Seacrest incident[edit]

Shouldn't there be a section about Cohen in character as the Dictator pouring "Kim Jong-il's ashes" onto Ryan Seacrest on the red carpet of the 84th Academy Awards? - Jasonbres (talk) 04:20, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Languages[edit]

There is no Arabic in the movie. It is just gibberish. I think adding Arabic to the list is incorrect. --Mustafa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.165.137.21 (talk) 03:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Have you seen the movie? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 03:33, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
There is Hebrew in the film - on the helicopter scene where they sound like talking Arabic, they use hebrew words --87.68.122.253 (talk) 11:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Coming to America/Zabibah...[edit]

After the release of the new trailer it's quite obvious this movie is a lot closer to Coming to America than Zabibah and the King. I don't really have the time to make a bunch of changes right now, but here is the trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3KzALgzIc&feature=youtu.be -- Alyas Grey : talk 23:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC) Isn;t a lot like an updated The Great Dictator with Gaddafi

Departure?[edit]

"The film is reported to be a departure from Baron Cohen's previous mockumentary films, as The Dictator features a supporting cast of known actors, proper film production camerawork and is not focused entirely on Baron Cohen's character, unlike his films Borat and Brüno, which featured minimal supporting cast, firsthand camerawork, and usually only featured one other known actor besides Baron Cohen."

Ummm.... does nobody remember Ali G Indahouse? ShipFan (Talk) 01:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Foreign-language sources[edit]

Actually, the link to the relevant guideline is WP:NOENG, not "WP:NOTENGLISH". For the English-language Wikipedia, when quoting a source in a different language, we must provide both the original-language quotation and an English translation. Please see guideline. I've only commented-out the passage; I did not delete it.--Tenebrae (talk) 00:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I've asked User:Niemti, who has only been on Wikipedia since March and already has a history of edit-warring and of warnings of impending blocks, to discuss the above on this page. He has refused to do so and is edit-warring here. There is no rationale for NOT translating a Spanish-language source in English-language Wikipedia. It is unreasonable to expect English-language users to speak Spanish in order to verify a claim. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Would it be a problem to just throw the source into Google Translate and then source the translated page beside the original source?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:46, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
He seems to have done that and posted a translation on my own talk page, rather than in the footnote. Google Translate isn't giving complete sentences here. But it's better than nothing, so I'd be fine with that. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:50, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

You're just making artifictial problems, all the time.

No, we do NOT have to "provide both the original-language quotation and an English translation". Not at all. And it's just another case of people completely misunderstanding Wikipedia guidelines. I wish everyone stopped doing that.

And machine translations are usually very easy to turn into gramatically correct sentences. There too.

But anyway, there are English sources. Lots of them. If you only spent about 5 seconds with Google, instead of this silly disruption, and threats... --Niemti (talk) 17:10, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I put in a translated text. Not sure how good it is, but the key words are identified.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 17:13, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
As I said, there's a plenty of English language sources for that (not that there was really EVER any problem with a ref being Spanish, just to remind you again). --Niemti (talk) 17:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

And you know what's a real problem? It's bare urls. --Niemti (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Metro cover[edit]

The cover of the London free newspaper ‘The Metro’ had a mock front cover promoting the film. Should this be added to the promotion section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.183.35 (talk) 23:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

No, that's just a regular ad. It's probably not that special.Fhqwgads (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:36, 24 May 2012 (UTC).

Edit request on 24 May 2012[edit]

Dear Wikipedia, 'Censorship' chapter of the article claims that 'The Dictator' is banned, amongst other countries, in Azerbaijan. This is an error, as 'The Dictator' is displayed at several cinemas in the capital, Baku. I have just returned from Azerbaijan and can verify that I watched the film there. Please see the link of the cinema-house 'Park Cinema' with the film's billboard and show times. Please remove Azerbaijan from the list of the countries that banned the film. Thanks in advance 195.26.48.130 (talk) 09:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem, it was not in sources. --Niemti (talk) 09:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Maybe we should include more reviews by notable critics[edit]

I did it with In Darkness (2011 film). --Niemti (talk) 21:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Why the Cohen didn't arrived with female bodyguards in other countries?[edit]

We need them :-). This info - and answer should be written there. Also the cast lacks info about the girls. And - in banned sections - is confirmed that this film is NOT banned in North Korea, Cuba, or U.S. military bases? Would be really strange...(okay maybe English speaking North Koreans can look as a "non possible", but as far as I known the citizens of this states speak at least basic English, French, Russian...

Everything foreign in banned in North Korea (including information on the outside world), why would it banned in the "U.S. military bases"? Anyway, WP:V. --Niemti (talk) 12:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Technically yes - from Western pov (however with exemptions). The e.g. ex official communist block films were not banned, but the distance made that only from official sources films were available. And of course there weren't lot of TV. As far as I known it is little changing with increasing number of computers, and loose the rules. Ok maybe there were not a lot of radios in home, but when they allowed e.g. mobile phones for a moment it increased dramatically. Many of computers are now in official bureaus and workplaces The tv number is also increasing, with affordable(~half of the month pay 5$ or 10 month pays) cheap low cost dvd players(like everywhere in Asia), and dvds can be produced in China for less than 0.5 $. The us bases and USA govt. policy is not like in freedom countries similar to Swiss or Sweden(check human rights reports) - e.g. banning all stuff, even like Wikileaks soft material (so called "war diary", without surnames). There are some relations and jokes in the films, which can be by that types of generals treated like "harmful to "my general" ideal society"... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.103.25 (talk) 23:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Mistake in the Reception[edit]

It says it got mixed to negative reviews, yet it says 109 out of 181 of them where positive.

  • Not done: -- I am having a hard time making any sense of the request itself; in any case, edit requests require specific details about what need to be changed in the article. Salvidrim! 02:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

== Edit request on 29 May 2012

Please add Azerbaijan to the list that has censorship for screening this movie.

Reference : http://www.blottr.com/world/breaking-news/dictator-screenings-cancelled-azerbaijan-cinema-claims-technical-problems


Abulya (talk) 21:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- The source doesn't discuss censorship. It only says some screenings were cancelled, and that the cancellation was reportedly due to technical problems. To claim that this source talks about censorship is original research as it is a deduction that you have made from the source, not something stated in the source itself; that would constitute synthesis. Salvidrim! 02:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Cameo appearances[edit]

Guys, shouldn't we write something about the cameo appearances of Edward Norton, Megan Fox, and others in the Dictator? Nataev (talk) 13:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Box office results needed[edit]

--Niemti (talk) 12:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, it's in the infobox. --Niemti (talk) 12:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Geographical Location[edit]

There is a website for Wadiya based on the movie which provides a picture of the map seen on the film. Wadiya isn't located in Eritrea, which is more northern and has Yemen next to it. Wadiya is actually located in Nortern Somalia. Here is a link to the picture from the website (this is part of the the official "The Dictator" website). http://www.republicofwadiya.com/invest.php . Should this be amended?

This can be double checked but Djibouti, a very small country, is to the south of Eritrea, in between Eritrea and Somalia. Judging by this map Wadiya has to be in Northern Somalia. I'm changing it Northern Somalia anyway, if you have cause to revert it let me know. RockHazard (talk) 12:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

The map on the website linked above is not the same as the one shown in the film, on which the location of Wadiya perfectly matches that of Eritrea (they simply changed the label). I think content from the movie is more important than content from some marketing website, so please leave it Eritrea. 09:03, 30 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.91.11.242 (talk)

Wikipedia. where vandalism in the lead goes unnoticed by tens of thousands for nearly 2 months[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Dictator_%282012_film%29&diff=547625970&oldid=545368169 --94.246.154.130 (talk) 21:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hallo there 94.246.154.130 (talk), thanks for noticing it. Anyway I wouldn't call it wp:vandalism, please wp:AGF. British are sterotipically associated with "British humour" so maybe that could be the reason why that "mistake" went unnoticed by "tens of thousands" for "nearly 2 months". Have you ever heard of the so called "stereotype threat"?   M aurice   Carbonaro  08:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
@Maurice Carbonaro: why wouldn't you call it vandalism? It's obviously untrue information inserted deliberately to mislead the reader..from WP:VAND, "deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." Theopolisme (talk) 21:13, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

9/11 humour[edit]

There should be something about 9/11 humour in here. --Big Caboose (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2013 (UTC)