Talk:The International (2009 film)

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Headlines[edit]

Headlines. —Erik (talkcontrib) - 23:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Peppageblather 17:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Visual effects coverage. —Erik (talkcontrib) 15:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Inspiration[edit]

Would it be proper to mention the Bank of Credit and Commerce International as an inspiration for the story? The trailer had me thinking immediately of the real-life BCCI. knoodelhed (talk) 17:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, if there is such a connection, it would be a good idea to see if a reliable source has reported it. If we can find such a report, maybe it could be mentioned in the article. —Erik (talkcontrib) 17:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Delayed Release[edit]

This film seems to have had its release delayed a number of times. I had wondered if this was because the major plot point - an evil all powerful bank - had become less marketable with major international banks falling asunder left right and centre during the current financial crisis. This is obviously not something I can back up with any sources as yet but perhaps those more interested in films may have read something somewhere to explain the delayed release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.149.57 (talk) 16:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Very likely. The song Ka-ching was treated similarly on its initial release as it condemns "American Consumption Culture" !! --Mando Salama (talk) 09:45, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Governor's appearance[edit]

I'm pretty unsure whether this is of encyclopedic relevancy, but Mr. Roberto Formigoni, Lombardy's regional governor, made a cameo appearance (not sure how unimportant: I haven't seen the movie yet) in the film, playing himself. This is reported in an article from Italy's main newspaper Corriere della Sera at [1] (translation: [2]).

If you find this relevant, I will add it to the article. --Andylong (talk) 22:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Details from the DVD?[edit]

Hi, I've just seen the movie and I really liked it. Having the DVD at hand, is it reasonable to include its details as "references" (as is usually done in wikiarticles about a book)?
Thanks & regards, DPdH (talk) 15:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The International (film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Matthew RD 16:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I shall be conducting the review today. -- Matthew RD 16:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

This is how the article looks under the GA criteria:

  1. Well written: See notes below
  2. Factually acurate and verifiable: See notes below
  3. Broad in converage: Yes
  4. Neutral?: Yes, no bias
  5. Stability: No edit wars, no stability issues
  6. Images: Infobox image is fine with the appropriate tags used

Prose:

  • "The International is a 2009 thriller film directed by Tom Tykwer." Eric Singer wrote the film, I want that included in the opening sentence. Also, is it an American film? British? German?
The different countries of production are mentioned throughout the text. It was a modern, multi-national production process and it is difficult to pin it down with one "nationality". No need for that in the first line, imo. Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

*"who investigate corruption within the IBBC," pronounce the full name of the bank, feel free to keep the IBBC in brackets; (). Done Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC) *Link LuxembourgDone Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC) *"Ridley Scott initially expressed an interest" to do what? Direct?Done Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC) *In the "Themes" section, BCCI was mentioned. I take it you mean the Bank of Credit and Commerce International? Would like the BCCI to be pronounced. Again, feel free to put BCCI in brackets.Done Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC) *Link Georgi MarkovDone Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Again in the "Themes" section, it would be best to mention that A.O. Scott is from the New York Times.
It's in the reference and mentioned later in the article. I think it would break up the flow too much. Not an essential detail. Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Sources: *Ref #6 is dead.

The website has been redesigned. I'm looking for the new url, but the reference is still valid. WP:Linkrot Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC) Fixed--Ktlynch (talk) 16:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
  • The sentence "Many scenes were filmed in the VW Autostadt in Wolfsburg." does not have a source at the end.
This is mentioned on various blogs and things, but I can't find a good source. I'm going to remove it for the moment.Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

*Likewise "The film was released on DVD and Blu-ray Disc on June 9, 2009. It contains a digital copy for portable devices." Done--Ktlynch (talk) 16:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC) *And "Citing the climatic shoot-out in the Guggenheim, hailed by other critics as spectacular, Scott wonders if another, such as Brian de Palma could have "turned into a fugue of architectural paranoia"? but I take it that is from the NY Times review, so the source should be moved to the end or this. Done Ktlynch (talk) 16:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Seems like there is a fair bit to do, but I will put it on hold for seven days until the issues have been addressed. Thank you and good luck. -- Matthew RD 17:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

You still haven't mentioned who wrote the film in the opening sentence, nor fully explained what the IBBC stands for in the lead. Also, linking the corrupt bank in the Themes section is kind of left unfinished (it was more like [[link], you forgot the other "]") After those points are dealt with, I will pass the article. -- Matthew RD 16:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
I mentioned the writer in the lead, since he is completely unknown I think adding his name to the opening sentence confuses things. The other typo has been corrected. Are you sure the IBBC's name needs to be laboured out in the lead? It's main relevance is the allusion to the BCCI name. The reader gains more by the pithy description than knowing the long-winded name. The full name comes early in the plot synopsis section.--Ktlynch (talk) 18:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
That is all fine. Thanks for your explinations. No I guess the reader can find out about the IBBC in the plot. I'll pass it now. Well done. -- Matthew RD 19:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your close reading and review. Best wishes Ktlynch (talk) 19:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)