Talk:The Matrix

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for The Matrix:
  • Check if the current version has little enough close paraphrasing. Check new references by Andrew Godowski especially. See Duplication detector report before CE and Duplication detector report after CE for more information.
  • Reformat and reword the filming section to avoid listing how they film scene by scene.
  • Summarize large bulks of direct quotes in critical reception section.
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References to use[edit]

Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.
  • Ahrens, Jörn (2009). "How to Save the Unsaved World? Transforming the Self in The Matrix, The Terminator, and 12 Monkeys". In Hart, Kylo-Patrick R.; Holba, Annette M. Media and the Apocalypse. Peter Lang Publishing. pp. 53–66. ISBN 1433104199. 
  • Booker, M. Keith (2006). "The Matrix". Alternate Americas: Science Fiction Film and American Culture. Praeger. pp. 247–264. ISBN 0275983951. 
  • Clover, Joshua (2004). The Matrix. BFI Modern Classics. London: BFI Publishing. ISBN 1844570452. 
  • Conard, Mark T. (2007). "The Matrix, the Cave, and the Cogito". In Sanders, Steven M. The Philosophy of Science Fiction Film. The Philosophy of Popular Culture. pp. 207–222. ISBN 0813124727. 
  • Desilet, Gregory (2005). "Apocalyptic Melodrama: The Terminator and The Matrix". Our Faith in Evil: Melodrama and the Effects of Entertainment Violence. McFarland. pp. 276–287. ISBN 078642348X. 
  • Diocaretz, Myriam; Herbrechter, Stefan, eds. (2006). The Matrix in Theory. Critical Studies. Editions Rodopi BV. ISBN 9042016396. 
  • Litch, Mary M (2002). "Skepticism – Films: Total Recall and The Matrix". Philosophy Through Film. Routledge. pp. 7–36. ISBN 0415938759. 
  • Matrix, Sidney Eve (2006). "Technomasculinity and GenderBLUR in The Matrix". Cyberpop: Digital Lifestyles and Commodity Culture. Routledge Studies in New Media and Cyberculture. Routledge. pp. 61–84. ISBN 0415976774. 
  • Wartenberg, Thomas E. (2007). "A skeptical thought experiment: The Matrix". Thinking on Screen: Film as Philosophy. Routledge. pp. 55–75. ISBN 0415774314. 
  • Arts of Darkness: American Noir and the Quest for Redemption ISBN-10: 1890626716. Some details about the book http://www.thomashibbs.org/4966/arts-of-darkness . The link is not the book, but it cited the book. We can probably say that The Matrix is noir, following the statement in the link, and citing the book.

Online references.

  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3028249.stm Mentions The Matrix's influences on A LOT of movies, including Shrek (parody), Charlie's Angels (imitating BT), Equilibrium (similar costume design imitating its darker tone), Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (wire fu and choreography opening doors to Asian action films), Max Payne (BT effect) Formatted ref: [1] [1]
  • http://www.screened.com/news/under-the-influence-the-matrix/2218/ Mentions 3 million sales, mentions some effect of Bound into getting The Wachowskis direct it (a part of three film deals), noted how memorable the fight sequences was, the differences between wire fu and eastern stunts, and how The Matrix's wire fu caused some shift to the Asian approach. Mentions the influence of Ghost in a Shell, The Invisibles, and Doctor Who, Plato's Allegory of the Cave (and also clarify how this works as 'nothing is real' in the film), linking the Neo's virgin birth, and how 'Anderson' can be interpreted as Christ, Judas/Cypher and Morpheus/John the Baptist metaphors and Neo's Christ-like death, and how the success of Star Wars, The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings influence Hollywood into making trilogies. Formatted ref: [2] [2]
  • http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20478022,00.html EW calling it the most influential action movie of the generation (not directly in this article), mentioned how it affect Charlie's Angels (2000), Night Watch (2004), Wanted, Inception (2010), Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010), TRON: Legacy (2010) (noting how the original TRON paved the way for The Matrix, which inspired Disney to make its own Matrix with a TRON sequel.) Formatted ref: [3] [3]
  • http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=422513 Reliable, as it came from Austrilia's respected museum. Contains significant info about shooting in Sydney. And you won't believe this: it already has Wiki citation mark-up waiting for us. LOL There are parts written by them, and there are a part taken from us. Careful not to cite the part taken from us to prevent circular sourcing.


References
  1. ^ a b Dowling, Stephen (May 21, 2003). "Under The Matrix influence". BBC. Retrieved December 22, 2012. 
  2. ^ a b Godoski, Andrew. "Under The Influence: The Matrix". Screened.com. Archived from the original on December 22, 2012. Retrieved December 22, 2012. 
  3. ^ a b Vary, Adam (Apr 01, 2011). "'The Matrix': A Groundbreaking Cyberthriller". Entertainment Weekly. Retrieved December 22, 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  4. ^ a b Fierman, Daniel (May 12, 2003). "The Neo Wave". Entertainment Weekly. Retrieved December 22, 2012. 

Origin of the name "Neo"[edit]

I am not sure, if this is right, but I have a strong suspicion that the name "Neo" is influenced by the name of a canadian hacker called Ne0h.

In 1999, Ne0h made quite some waves for avenging his group members by defacing a governement website with the following text:

"Listen up FBI m____ f_____ers. Don’t f___ with our members, you will loose.

we are holding fbi.gov as I type this. AND YOUR FEARING. We got

arrested because you dumb idouts cant figure out who hacked the whitehoue..

right? so you take us alll in and see if one of them narcs. GOOD

F___ING LUCK.. WE WONT NARC. Don’t you understand? I SAID

WORLD DOMINATION.

the unmerciful, ne0h.”

(information taken from Kevin Mitnicks book The Art of Intrusion)

If this is the case, then you might want to add that information to the article. (and maybe the Ne0h article as well)

"The Wachowskis" vs. "The Wachowski Brothers"[edit]

MOS:IDENTITY says, "Wikipedia should use the term most used in sources". However, it continues: "An exception to this is made for terms relating to gender. In such cases we favor self-designation, even when source usage would indicate otherwise. Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to by the pronouns, possessive adjectives, and gendered nouns ... that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. This applies in references to any phase of that person's life, unless the subject has indicated a preference otherwise." The exception in the present case is the use of "Brothers" in the article prose. Please note this discussion, the most recent I could find with a consensus, where the closing admin states, "there is a rough consensus that the subject's preference take precedence over referring to them using their latest expressed gender." It seems to agree with my reading of the guideline. "The Wachowskis" in the article prose is in no way ambiguous and reflects the consensus guideline. Listing "The Wachowski Brothers" in the info box reflects the proper noun usage of the phrase in the film's credits. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:33, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Sophia Stewart[edit]

Please note that any information that Sophia Stewart has originally invented the idea is a HOAX http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/22/inside-the-billion-dollar-matrix-lawsuit-one-of-the-internets-most-pervasive-hoaxes/ and should be reverted as vandalism. Petrb (talk) 13:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

You are using an outdated source. Here is a full explanation for you.
[removed copy/paste copyright issue]
More Information is available at the website: http://www.truthaboutmatrix.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junklit (talkcontribs) 13:54, 28 January 2015
I've removed the material you copy/pasted from the website above as a copyright issue. Feel free to remove my italicized "removed" comment above and replace it with a paraphrase or the like. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 01:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
A source on her site is not reliable/neutral. Wikipedia only includes what has been reported on in reliable sources. See WP:V and WP:RS. If you are aware of reliable secondary sources (no court records, none of her own statements), please link to them here. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 01:48, 30 January 2015 (UTC)