Talk:The Red Tour
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- 1 Tour Alternating Songs
- 2 Edit request on 27 March 2013
- 3 June 6, 2013 Nashville LP Field is NOT a RED Tour date
- 4 CMA Music Festival date does not belong in this article about the RED Tour
- 5 RED Tour Concert T-shirt shows 66 tour dates
- 6 Special guests Tyler Glenn and Pat Monahan
- 7 Section for B-Stage songs
- 8 Total attendance and gross revenue
- 9 European Opening Acts
Tour Alternating Songs
There have been a lot of edits and reverts having to do with the setlist. I understand that it can't be kept up to date with every show, but I want to bring up the fact that the source listed is wrong. She has not sang the song Fifteen or Ours on the tour. Additionally, it makes it look like she is doing a medley of four songs. Taylor explains in the concert that she chooses a song to play right before she plays it for that slot. So far, that song has been I Almost Do, White Horse, Should've Said No, Cold As You, Tim McGraw, and Forever and Always. I am in favor of placing the note "Alternate Song" there instead of any listing, since it changes every night, and right now it gives a false impression of it. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 00:42, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- There's no false impression. It literally states "The following set list is representative of the show on March 18, 2013. It is not representative of all concerts for the duration of the tour." Wikipedia isn't a fansite to list every single song change during a tour. Set lists change all the time. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 02:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Point 1: The article of Wikipedia "Identifidying reliable sources" says: "Anyone can create a personal web page or publish their own book, and also claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason self-published media—whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, BLOGS, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets—are largely not acceptable. This includes any website whose content is largely user-generated, including the Internet Movie Database (IMDB), CBDB.com, collaboratively created websites such as wikis, and so forth, with the exception of material on such sites that is labeled as originating from credentialed members of the sites' editorial staff, rather than users." And your source is a BLOG, so that's not a reliable source.
Point 2: Can you explain who can you sing 4 songs in one performance? Because I don't know. Can you show me a video or something where she is singing Fifteen or Ours? Because I don't find.
Point 3: If you want insert the setlist of 03-18, the real song is Should've said no. You can check in this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKxFNxcTDVI ot this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xSKZ9KI7GQ or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ICAfdGoxY.
Point 4: In the article of Speak Now is until she won in every concert, what's the problem if we put the songs if we know it and don't lie?
Point 5: I have another reliable source for 03-27 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/blogs/pop-life/taylor-swifts-red-tour-her-amps-go-up-to-22-20130328
So, Can I change the setlist and put it correctly? I have given you 5 reason, please you must believe me.
- You call a published magazine an unreliable source, but YouTube is a reliable one? I've updated the source with the Rolling Stone one, thanks for the link. That will be all here. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 03:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Your source is a show review, so that's not a reliable source. I put differents links of youtube, not like source unless for you can see the real song, or do you thing that 3 differents people are liying? Moreover, the source for Everyody Talks is a youtube link in a different page - Altrico10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altrico10 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 27 March 2013
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You forgot to include "I Knew You Were Trouble" which is performed right after "Sparks Fly" and before "All Too Well" making it the 13th song performed. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 13:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Done Request checks out with source already on the article. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
June 6, 2013 Nashville LP Field is NOT a RED Tour date
Please remove "June 6, 2013 Nashville LP Field" from the list of RED Tour dates. Taylor is performing at the CMA Music Festival on that date. She isn't doing her RED Tour dates in Nashville until September 19, 20, 21. Note: I tried to do the edit myself, but I accidentally messed up the table by deleting too many lines. Sorry, I wasn't sure how to delete just that one incorrect row in the table. Please make the corrections for me (while keeping the table intact). http://www.cmaworld.com/cma-music-festival/2013/home
Also, I previously made another valid edit, which got reverted to the incorrect info. The number of North American tour dates is 66, not 67. So the overall number is 72, not 73. Because someone mistakenly added the CMA Music Festival date to the table, that made the total count 67, so people did not realize that I was correct that the total number of North American tour dates is only 66. For verification, you can also count 66 tour dates here: http://taylorswift.com/news/106431
CMA Music Festival date does not belong in this article about the RED Tour
In the latest changes by Itsbydesign, there was a footnote added:
Festivals and other miscellaneous performances This concert was a part of "CMA Music Festival"
I had asked that the row "June 6, 2013 Nashville LP Field" be removed from the table because it was not a RED Tour date. Rather than follow my instructions, Itsbydesign decided to add a footnote. Perhaps you're missing the point here: The article title is "Red Tour" not "Red Tour and any other miscellaneous performances Taylor happens to do during that time."
The CMA Music Festival is completely unrelated to the RED Tour. Taylor has a 30-min slot from 9:00 to 9:30, in between Luke Bryan and Eric Church. http://lineup.cmaworld.com/events/2013/06/06/ Obviously, Taylor is only doing a few songs here, and certainly not her entire 2-hr RED Tour concert. So why would you include this date in an article about the RED Tour?
Please read my previous post, and follow my instructions. Make the necessary changes to make the article accurate. I've already given you the URL of an official news announcement from Taylor's web site: http://taylorswift.com/news/106431 You can see that the date June 6 is not listed there, because it's obviously not a RED Tour date. Furthermore, if you carefully count the number of dates listed, you will come up with a total of 66, not 67. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 16:54, 2 June 2013 (UTC) Jay
RED Tour Concert T-shirt shows 66 tour dates
Some additional evidence to add to my two previous posts. The RED Tour Concert T-shirt shows 66 tour dates (in 3 columns of 22 rows). http://www.amazon.com/Black-RED-Tour-Tee-L/dp/B00BSEK0NE/
The tour dates listed on the T-shirt exactly match the listing on the official web site news announcement page: http://taylorswift.com/news/106431
Special guests Tyler Glenn and Pat Monahan
In the Special guests section, it's misleading to just say Neon Trees and Train since only one member of each band actually performed, not the entire band. So change "Neon Trees" to "Tyler Glenn from Neon Trees" and change "Train" to "Pat Monahan from Train" http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1704572/taylor-swift-red-tour-new-jersey.jhtml http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrH9GahG8dU http://omg.yahoo.com/news/taylor-swift-joined-trains-pat-monahan-jersey-concert-175653020.html 18.104.22.168 (talk) 05:28, 16 June 2013 (UTC) Jay
Section for B-Stage songs
Every night Taylor Swift has a different special song she sings on the B-Stage, and I feel that adding them with a link to YouTube videos with each song would be appropriate. Let me know if this is OK to post — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyswimmer (talk • contribs) 08:55, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Total attendance and gross revenue
I wonder, everytime I change the latest total attendance and gross revenue, it will always change back to the last one. Wikipedia is a site which provides latest information, so I don't see there is a need to change it back. Do the math. Let me know if there is anyone against it. KimHaeri (talk) 02:00, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
European Opening Acts
In the "opening acts" portion of the European leg of the tour, no information is provided. Here is information you can use to fill it in:
The Vamps opened for the London Shows. http://www.sundayworld.com/entertainment/music/the-vamps-announce-debut-uk-tour
Andreas Bourani opened for the Berlin show. http://www.o2world.com/ShowEvent/735/Taylor-Swift-THE-RED-TOUR.html
Please add this info.