Talk:The Sash

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God Bless Them[edit]

Do the words GOD BLESS THEM really follow the lyrics? Arcturus 17:00, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


Alternative Lyrics[edit]

Several websites give alternative lyrics. The most popular being as follows:

For its here I am an Orangeman, just come across the sea For singing and for dancing, I hope that I'll please thee, I can sing or dance with any man As I did in days of yore And its on the Twelfth I long to wear the Sash my Father wore.

Chorus

It is old but it is beautiful. Its colours they are fine It was worn at Derry, Aughrim, Enniskillen and the Boyne My Father wore it as a youth in the bygone days of yore And its on the Twelfth I long to wear, the Sash my Father wore.


For it's now I'm going to leave you, good luck to you I'll say And when I'm on the ocean deep, I hope for me you'll pray I'm going to my native land, to a place they call Dromore Where on the Twelfth I long to wear the Sash my Father wore.

Chorus

Whenever I come back again my brethren here to see I hope to find old Orange style, they will always welcome me My favourite tune's "Boyne Water", but to please me more and more And make my Orange heart full glad with the Sash my Father wore.

Chorus.

So Which version is correct ???


Irish Molly[edit]

The tune "Irish Molly" is classified as tune number 1732, on the website "Irishtune.info Irishtune, also known as "Scotch Mary". It is tune number 1510 in Francis O'Neill and James O'Neill: "O'Neill's Music of Ireland" (1850). I suspect this is a different tune from "The Hat My Father Wore", but I am not sure enough to put it into the article. Ogg 20:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Contested statements removed to talk[edit]

  • This song, "Irish Molly-O", was rediscovered and is sung by Tommy Sands on his 1995 CDThe Heart's a Wonder on Green Linnet GLCD 1158..{{Fact|date=February 2007}}

Please do not return this information to the article without a citation.--BirgitteSB 05:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I have re-inserted this.......... This song, is also the tune "Irish Molly-O", in Broadside Ballads (1787) titled Irish Molly O http://ballads.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/view/sheet/7421. It has been said to be rediscovered and sung by Tommy Sands on his 1995 CD [[The Heart's a Wonder] but these are different lyrics. Tommy Sands wikipedia page Tommy Sands and amazon.com amazon.co.uk sell the CD. It exists, and is discussed in the book The Globalization of Irish Traditional Song Performance By Susan H. Motherway on page 133. and see http://www.fresnostate.edu/folklore/ballads/FSC062.html

Earliest date 1842 (Joyce, The Native Music of Ireland)

REFERENCES (10 citations): Greig #111, p. 2, "Irish Molly" (1 text) GreigDuncan6 1088, "Irish Mally, O"; GreigDuncan6 1158, "The Gipsy's Warning" (11 texts, 8 tunes) Ord, p. 131, "Irish Molly, O" (1 text) FSCatskills 62, "My Irish Molly-O" (1 text, 1 tune) Meredith/Covell/Brown, pp. 177-178, "Irish Molly-O" (1 text, 1 tune) O'Conor, p. 52, "Irish Molly O" (1 text) Wiltshire-WSRO Mi 606, "Irish Molly O" (1 text) DT, IRSHMOLL* ADDITIONAL: Charles Gavan Duffy, editor, The Ballad Poetry of Ireland (1845), pp. 214-215, "Irish Molly" H. Halliday Sparling, Irish Minstrelsy (London, 1888), pp. 186-187, 512, "Irish Molly" Roud #2168

BROADSIDES: Bodleian, Harding B 11(1787), "Irish Molly, O!" ("As I walk'd out one morning all in the month of May"), J. Pitts (London), 1819-1844; also Harding B 11(2121), Firth b.28(35) View 2 of 2[some words illegible], Johnson Ballads fol. 114, Harding B 11(4209), Harding B 17(140b), Johnson Ballads 2582, Firth c.26(181), Harding B 20(257), Firth c.26(137), 2806 c.15(243), Firth c.14(204), 2806 b.11(252), "Irish Molly, O[!]"; Johnson Ballads 340, "Irish Molly!" LOCSinging, as106290, "Irish Molly, O," Harris (Philadelphia), 19C NLScotland, L.C.1270(006), "Irish Molly, O," James Kay (Glasgow), c. 1845; also L.C.178.A.2(256), "Irish Molly O," unknown, c. 1860 Davdevalle (talk) 19:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)